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| Quote cod'ead="cod'ead"£45m is a "trivial amount"? And that loan could've run for years and years. Brown didn't "need" to pay it off, he thought it prudent to do so, something no tory had managed. There is also the consideration that some UK banks were thought to be exposed to problems attached to a high gold price
Whatever anyone's thoughts on his selling of gold, the "cost" to the UK was still less than that of Black Wednesday'" I think most people would agree that around 0.005% of the national budget was trivial in the overall scheme of things.
The US-UK loan required 50 annual installments from 1950. With repayment deferred in six years in the 50s, 60s and 70s, the final payment eventually fell due in 2006. Which is when Brown repaid it. Hardly an heroic achievement.
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| Ripping off via corporation tax? I remember when all companies, however small, paid 52% and now its 20%. People now want to leave money in companies because the tax rate is so low compared with taking it out. So, if 20% is a rip off I assume Standee has / will never use public transport, the NHS, the education system, rely on the police or emergency services in his hour of need, rely on the intelligence services or armed forces to keep him safe, expect any state pension in future, etc, etc.
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| Quote cod'ead="cod'ead"£45m is a "trivial amount"? And that loan could've run for years and years. Brown didn't "need" to pay it off, he thought it prudent to do so, something no tory had managed. There is also the consideration that some UK banks were thought to be exposed to problems attached to a high gold price
Whatever anyone's thoughts on his selling of gold, the "cost" to the UK was still less than that of Black Wednesday'"
Utterly trivial in the context of current debt!!
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| Quote Dally="Dally"Utterly trivial in the context of current debt!!'"
Agreed but we had chances to finally shake off that yoke in previous years and dodged them
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| Quote Dally="Dally"Ripping off via corporation tax? I remember when all companies, however small, paid 52% and now its 20%. People now want to leave money in companies because the tax rate is so low compared with taking it out. So, if 20% is a rip off I assume Standee has / will never use public transport, the NHS, the education system, rely on the police or emergency services in his hour of need, rely on the intelligence services or armed forces to keep him safe, expect any state pension in future, etc, etc.'"
Standee belives in a "small state".
So small that he has convinced himself (although there are one or two doubters), that his parents fully-funded not only his birth but ALL of his education and welfare needs up to the point where he can fund all of that himself.
I know that he enjoys a spot of skiing, I only hope he doesn't have an accident in a country such as France, then he'll find out what 3rd world healthcare is all about.
He also reckoned that this bill was false because it was in $s, despite the fact that it is the usual currency in the US and also the fact that the US tends not to have a "free at point of need" medical system

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| Quote cod'ead="cod'ead"Standee belives in a "small state".
So small that he has convinced himself (although there are one or two doubters), that his parents fully-funded not only his birth but ALL of his education and welfare needs up to the point where he can fund all of that himself.
I know that he enjoys a spot of skiing, I only hope he doesn't have an accident in a country such as France, then he'll find out what 3rd world healthcare is all about.
He also reckoned that this bill was false because it was in $s, despite the fact that it is the usual currency in the US and also the fact that the US tends not to have a "free at point of need" medical system
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That bill looks about right. My cousin's last baby born cost her personally about $7,000. Her insurance from General Motors paid the difference of about $40k. She explained to me, everything from a meal to a plaster was billed.
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| Quote cod'ead="cod'ead"Yes because Gordon Brown single-handedly caused the worldwide financial meltdown in 2008.
There'll be far fewer people "shafted" by a Labour government than there will be by a tory one'"
Far more people get shafted under Labour - their tax and spend affects us all, sadly.
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| Quote Sal Paradise="Sal Paradise"Far more people get shafted under Labour - their tax and spend affects us all, sadly.'"
Yes, it's so terrible that they fritter away money on things like education, healthcare and policing
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| Quote cod'ead="cod'ead"Yes, it's so terrible that they fritter away money on things like education, healthcare and policing'"
What is terrible is the amount of waste in the public sector - so you need to increase spending disproportionately to get any kind of positive outcomes.
Spending on public services is an easy way to get things moving - unfortunately it only ever has very short term benefits as the last Labour government realised.
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| Quote cod'ead="cod'ead"Yes, it's so terrible that they fritter away money on things like education, healthcare and policing'"
What is terrible is the amount of waste in the public sector - so you need to increase spending disproportionately to get any kind of positive outcomes.
Spending on public services is an easy way to get things moving - unfortunately it only ever has very short term benefits as the last Labour government realised.
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| Today should be fun, there are some real gems lined of to speak:
BoJo with his [url=http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/boris-johnson-suggests-ukip-defectors-4348650#ixzz3EkxrzvxFUKIP defectors have sex with hoovers[/url
Theresa May & Chris Grayling impersonating the Krankies tearing up the Human Rights Bill
And to top it all off tomorrow, Camoron will be trying to out-UKIP, UKIP
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| Tax Credits will be frozen for 2 years from 2016 under a re-elected Tory government. I know i'm a dirty, filthy scrounger for claiming them, but if my employer, and most other people's employers paid them a suitable wage, i wouldn't need them. Cost of living will have further increased by then, and my average payrise per year in my 8 years with my current employer is around 7p, so... struggles ahead.
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