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| He's been here 20 years. Why has he never been prosecuted here?
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| Quote WormInHand="WormInHand"He's been here 20 years. Why has he never been prosecuted here?'"
Because he hasn't done anything here that we can prosecute him for.
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| Quote Kosh="Kosh"Because he hasn't done anything here that we can prosecute him for.'"
Thought so. But he's been in gaol for most of that time?
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| Quote Dally="Dally"A temporary withdrawal from the ECHR would be ludicrous and more particularly a dangerous precedent.'"
Why? Britain has had, throughput its history, an almost unparalleled respect for the liberties of its citizens. Why do we need European judges to tell our government how to behave?
The whole concept of the ECHR is ludicrous. It is nonsense that just because Germany cannot be trusted to stay within its borders or refrain from committing genocide that a panel of unelected foreigners, who descend from countries where traditionally liberty and democracy are alien concepts, should dictate to Britain (who along with the Americans gave freedom and democracy to Europe) that we cannot deport a terrorist to his country of origin.
The solution to the German problem was not to implement an ECHR that decides how the British government can deal with criminals or terrorists. Nor was the answer to create an EU federal state whereby the sovereignty of every nation in Europe is subjugated under German rule. The answer was to break Germany up. Thatcher understood this, hence her opposition to reunification.
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| Quote JerryChicken="JerryChicken"Actually, even though you are a spoof account, thats where you are wrong.'"
Really? During World War 1 Germans living in Britain were locked up without trial, where they were deemed to pose a security risk. During World War 2 Germans and domestic fascists were detained without trial. How often on a battlefield do soldiers have to consider the "right to life" of enemy combatants? Do you think that during the D-Day landings the Allied forces had time to put the German troops on trial before it was legitimate to take action against them?
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| Quote John_D="John_D"I feel substantially more threatened by a government seeking to pick and choose which laws it adheres to as and when it feels like it than I do about a bile-spouter like Qatada who is easily ignored, patronised, belittled, whatever.'"
Are you crazy? Was it the British government that detonated the bombs on 7/7? Was it the British government that drove a car into Glasgow airport with the intention of blowing it up? Was it the US government that flew the planes into the WTC on 9/11? Was it the Indian government that staged the mass shootings in Mumbai? Was it the Indonesian government that detonated bombs in Bali? Please could you provide me with some figures showing how many British innocent British citizens have been killed in this country by the Labour/Tory governments to support the idea that the Government is more dangerous than the Islamist terrorists who which to abolish democracy, remove all our freedoms and kill all of us that reverse to accept Islamism?
Thankfully there were not morons like you during World War 2. You would have been moaning that Churchill represented a big danger to Britain than the Luftwaffe flying over our skies during the Battle of Britain or bombing our cities during the Blitz.
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| Quote cod'ead="cod'ead"Please phrase "common sense"in a legal way, so that laws can be recognised and adhered to'"
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- a) If a person or persons born outside the EU are deemed to be "taking the mickey" by a jury of 100 of their peers, they shall be found guilty and deportedback to their country of origin forthwith.
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| Quote TrinityIHC="TrinityIHC"S14
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- a) If a person or persons born outside the EU are deemed to be "taking the mickey" by a jury of 100 of their peers, they shall be found guilty and deportedback to their country of origin forthwith.'"
Well that's certainly "common" but you are missing the "sense" bit by a bus stop
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| Quote David Titan="David Titan"Really? During World War 1 Germans living in Britain were locked up without trial, where they were deemed to pose a security risk. During World War 2 Germans and domestic fascists were detained without trial. How often on a battlefield do soldiers have to consider the "right to life" of enemy combatants? Do you think that during the D-Day landings the Allied forces had time to put the German troops on trial before it was legitimate to take action against them?'"
Yes, lots of things happened 70 and 100 years ago that don't happen now, the author who seems to think that you are a real person would probably have been locked up for schizophrenia for one thing, if you look a little closer to the real time date you'll see the reality of what happens when soldiers mistreat prisoners and the reality of what transpires when a state decides to imprison "suspects" without trial - how long would you like to detain political prisoners for ?
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| Quote WormInHand="WormInHand"Thought so. But he's been in gaol for most of that time?'"
Anti-terrorism legislation doesn't require you to have actually [idone[/i anything to get banged up. Or at least put under effective house arrest.
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| [url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17769990Abu Qatada's timeline from 1993 to present[/url
Seems like there's been penty of opportunity to put him before a British court, you have to wonder why it hasn't happened
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| Quote cod'ead="cod'ead"[url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17769990Abu Qatada's timeline from 1993 to present[/url
Seems like there's been penty of opportunity to put him before a British court, you have to wonder why it hasn't happened'"
You do don't you, wonder what the reasons could be !!
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