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| Quote JerryChicken="JerryChicken"Just to whizz back to page one and the very first post that started all of this, the OP states that they made the decision NOT to purchase tickets from a reseller site as they were going for almost 100% markup.
Thats your answer to the whole problem right there and its also the reason why its not a problem at all.
The answer to the perceived problem is don't go to the gig if you think that the original face value price is too high and/or the reseller price is a rip-off - why anyone would then go ahead and buy something that they've already decided is a rip-off I just don't know, possibly too weak to stand by their own principles?
The reason why its not a problem is that there is a solution (see above) OR its not a problem because the service is well frequented and suits the reseller, the promoter, the venue operator and the artist by filling the venue and creating a demand - or in other words good marketing, the same sort of marketing that goes into every other consumer product that is launched to a market where the consumer doesn't yet know that he/she needs the product and can't live without it (how the hell do Apple sell a product for twice the price of all other computer technology company's).'"
That entire post is a contradiction. You acknowledge the OP decided not to buy due to the mark-up, yet then claim there is no problem. The OP's situation IS the problem.
The OP was denied the opportunity to buy those tickets at a fair price anywhere near face value. He decided (sensibly imo) not to fork out a fortune and therefore misses out. Why should he? Fact is, if a tout hadn't snapped up those tickets (and probably thousands of others) they could have gone to a genuine punter, but instead there are suddenly no other means of getting hold of a ticket. It's not simply a 'reselling service', it's touts and 'reselling' firms using systems to buy in bulk with the sole intention feeding on and increasing demand to sell at a massive mark-up.
The fact some people may buy at those prices doesn't mean it's not a problem, it simply means people were unable to buy in the first instance and are spending a lot more than they would have. For some people their desire to see the event outweighs even the inflated cost - but I bet if you asked most, they certainly wouldn't be happy at lining the pockets of some rip-off merchant. If there were only 10 turkeys left on Xmas Eve and you were 9th in the queue, then some bloke pushed in, bought 5 and then turned round and offered them for a £100 mark-up, you wouldn't be best pleased. That's exactly how industrialised touting works. Buying a disproportionate number of tickets, denying them to genuine punters, and then selling at a tidy profit.
That is a problem, no matter how much you claim otherwise. The entire industry needs shaking up.
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| A search of a few minutes will still deliver decent priced tickets. The OP is a ****tard and this whole thread is a fuss about nothing.
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| Quote Cronus="Cronus"That entire post is a contradiction. You acknowledge the OP decided not to buy due to the mark-up, yet then claim there is no problem. The OP's situation IS the problem.
The OP was denied the opportunity to buy those tickets at a fair price anywhere near face value. He decided (sensibly imo) not to fork out a fortune and therefore misses out. Why should he? Fact is, if a tout hadn't snapped up those tickets (and probably thousands of others) they could have gone to a genuine punter, but instead there are suddenly no other means of getting hold of a ticket. It's not simply a 'reselling service', it's touts and 'reselling' firms using systems to buy in bulk with the sole intention feeding on and increasing demand to sell at a massive mark-up.
The fact some people may buy at those prices doesn't mean it's not a problem, it simply means people were unable to buy in the first instance and are spending a lot more than they would have. For some people their desire to see the event outweighs even the inflated cost - but I bet if you asked most, they certainly wouldn't be happy at lining the pockets of some rip-off merchant. If there were only 10 turkeys left on Xmas Eve and you were 9th in the queue, then some bloke pushed in, bought 5 and then turned round and offered them for a £100 mark-up, you wouldn't be best pleased. That's exactly how industrialised touting works. Buying a disproportionate number of tickets, denying them to genuine punters, and then selling at a tidy profit.
That is a problem, no matter how much you claim otherwise. The entire industry needs shaking up.'"
The entire industry don't seem to be that bothered.
In fact neither does anyone else, apart from you.
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| Bit of rocket science here.
I will pay what I, not anyone else, perceive as value for money.
For example, I will pay nothing to watch a live Mo & Ron Balls game no matter what it is. To me it is valueless . Others will pay over the odds and crow about it for kudos.
That's the system. It isn't perfect but its what we have. There are ways to change the system.
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| Quote JerryChicken="JerryChicken"The entire industry don't seem to be that bothered.
In fact neither does anyone else, apart from you.'"
And the OP, and others if you read back. A cursory web search also tells me plenty of people are bothered about it and calling for change.
I find it strangely hypocritical that certain vocal left-leaning posters are seemingly content to see an industry operating in such a manner, entirely geared towards ripping off the person on the street on an industrial scale.
Each to their own.
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| Quote Cronus="Cronus"And the OP, and others if you read back. A cursory web search also tells me plenty of people are bothered about it and calling for change.
I find it strangely hypocritical that certain vocal left-leaning posters are seemingly content to see an industry operating in such a manner, entirely geared towards ripping off the person on the street on an industrial scale.
Each to their own.'"
Thats because of your own ridiculous classification of people into "left" or "right" depending on what you believe to be their political viewpoint. Truth of the matter is that sensible self-thinkers do not live their lives according to political dogma and the thought that "Would the Labour Party/Tory Party (delete which does not apply) approve of this transaction?" simply does not cross anyone's mind, apart from yours (apparently).
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| I've 2 front row floor seats for Mrs Browns Boys in Leeds in June
Bought from Eventim when they went on sale
The wife & I are looking forward to it, but I'm also aware that such prime tickets could fetch a fair premium, and I may test the market a week or so before the show, by posting on one of the resale sites or Gumtree
If someone is willing to pay silly prices, we'd probably sell, and wait for the DVD. I'd have no issues selling if someone wants to pay!
Anyone want to offer £200 the pair 
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| I'd rather eat my own sh|t after a dodgy takeaway than watch Mrs Browns Boys.
After having thought about it a while I don't care about ticket touts, I want the event industry reformed to ban all God-awful events.
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| Quote JerryChicken="JerryChicken"Thats because of your own ridiculous classification of people into "left" or "right" depending on what you believe to be their political viewpoint.'"
What classification is that then? Or perhaps reading your posts over the years has helped form a sensible, self-thinking opinion?
Quote JerryChickenTruth of the matter is that sensible self-thinkers do not live their lives according to political dogma and the thought that "Would the Labour Party/Tory Party (delete which does not apply) approve of this transaction?" simply does not cross anyone's mind, apart from yours (apparently).'"
Actually, apparently not, seeing as I didn't mention political parties. You did.
Happy New Year
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| Quote Cronus
I find it strangely hypocritical that certain vocal left-leaning posters are seemingly content to see an industry operating in such a manner, entirely geared towards ripping off the person on the street on an industrial scale.'"
Quote Cronus="Cronus"What classification is that then? Or perhaps reading your posts over the years has helped form a sensible, self-thinking opinion?'"
LOL, I think I once voted for the Labour party, several elections ago to get rid of the Tory tw*t who had held this seat for so long that he thought it was his birthright, but thats probably the only time I did - what is your sensible self-thinking opinion of my political views then ?
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| Ha, nice attempt at a backtrack - let's just note again it's not me who keeps 'classifying' in terms of political parties, shall we.
Quote JerryChicken="JerryChicken"LOL, I think I once voted for the Labour party, several elections ago to get rid of the Tory tw*t who had held this seat for so long that he thought it was his birthright, but thats probably the only time I did - what is your sensible self-thinking opinion of my political views then ?'"
Nowt to write home about. 
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| So what is your sensible self-thinking opinion of my political views then ?
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