You' best get in touch with The RFL then, as you're only allowed a maximum of 5

What makes things worse is Marshalls comments after the game were that "York took us by surprise" How the f***??? Get rid and quick.

G F B you are closer to the action than I am, and from your posts have your ear to the ground of the information trail. Just where did Fax go wrong on recruiting?, people seemed quite happy with the squad, yes a few remarked about a light pack, on the upside of that should they be more mobile?, not relying on breaking tackles and beating people up, I have nothing against intimidation of the opposition it's part of the game. Is Marshal so pigheaded he cannot see where the weak areas are, as good as Murrell has been, every dog has its day and it seems his was over a couple of years ago, although he was nominated for player of year, so he can still do it even as a roly poly.

However my point still is, if it ain't working with plan a should not the senior players have a plan b, c, or even d to revert to without calls from the sideline? Fax have a lot of experience on the field so come on guys use your nous, you can and have done it, and not just on a dry track, England does not have 8 months of summer weather.

The lack of discipline will cost Fax points every week. How many penalties given away so far this year 4 games gone have they gone passed 50 yet?

I dont have the Stats for the Widnes Game but in the 6 Matches since we have conceded 55 Pens & have been awarded 38

All spot on.

Bentleyman thank you for the info fax have been awarded more than I imagined. However that is still a 30% negative figure. Not good for defensive play. Also where they are conceded.

How have we got ourselves in the position of being a team clueless in attack, capable of conceding points from any part of the field, conceding penalty after penalty.

This is when Murrell is playing and when ever he leaves the field the performance level drops to junior rugby level.



I can accept losing after putting in a performance.



What I can’t accept is looking like losers after putting in a performance like that, “ again .”

I was there as a neutral yesterday.



The biggest difference in my opinion was that York ran on to the ball at pace.



Halifax on the other hand were completely static when they received the ball. They certainly need to think and act quicker.



I would be concerned at the lack of pace yesterday and how easily the York forwards especially Teanby dominated the game.



Your half backs were totally outplayed by Robinson and Cockayne yesterday.

Just read Marshall's post match speil.Basically he's no idea why it went wrong and has no answers.Really is time for a change.

Exactly ricardo and if it’s obvious to us and a neutral spectator what’s wrong but not to the coach I really do start to worry and despair.

I’ve said it time and time again about our pack, the second row usually put in a good shift.

The front row make no impact and yesterday we had the 2 starting props and 3 more on the bench.

Against Swinton it was only when it became desperado time and Simon Grix started to run the ball in hard in the last 10 minutes as a prop / forward should do that Fax got anything from the game.

Things I noticed yesterday.



1. Our passing is still poor and so slow, player has to either stop, jump or twist backwards to catch it.

2. No player seems to catch the ball running onto it.

3. We let teams up at the play the ball too quick.

4. We have 2 halfbacks who don't run.

5. A former winger outplayed our halfbacks.

6. Forwards just no oomph at all.

7. We get out enthused at everything.

8. Doesn't seem to be players running at angles giving the ball carrier options. When York had the ball there was players everywhere running giving the ball carrier options.

9. We are so predictable in attack. One up rugby or scoot or at best ball passed down the line with no 2nd phase coming in or creating options and hesitation in the defence.

10. We still think a 5 minute one man run-around is a good tactic, last seen in the 90's in the Workshops competition.

11. Maybe the advantages of Murrell don't outweigh the disadvantages now.

12. The pies were decent!

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