The pitch under Mr Abbott's ownership will be replaced, under the Council it will not. However you would be happy for the council to replace the pitch and let all other parts of the stadium deteriorate.

Last night at Rochdale was exactly the reason why you need to have a stadium fit for the biggest gate possible, be ambitious and not have typical small town mentality. Look at a lot of football clubs below the Premiership they have half full stadiums but they hope they get a big cup match some day or reach the Premiership which many do, look at Southampton and Hull City.

The Shay needs to be around 15K or 16K to get some of the bigger games in RL and lets hope one day Town get Bradford City, Huddersfield Town, Leeds Utd or Burnley down the Shay in the cup.

By eck you're living in cloud cookoo land lad.

Super league crowds for fax 5000 average

Average maybe, but peaks would be higher. And I get what he's saying, cup games, semi finals etc would get larger crowds.



You have to have a stadium fit for purpose if you want it to be used

What's a cookoo?

An eck should be 'eck

Go back to primary school,

Dum ass read my post it says you can have a ground bigger than your needs and many do, you seem to completely ignore the Town side of my argument too is that not relevant? Just go away you will never be convinced of anything other than what you want to believe.

Town fans are a set of luddites that are happy to accept playing in a half finished stadium that will see 2 stands condemned probably in the next 10 years. The Council has no money to redevelop them. Keep living in the past, but dont hold back those that want to live in the future.

The ground is just fine as it is.



Town fans are quite happy the way things are, as the boys in blue are representing the town brilliantly in a strong league, and there is plenty to look forward to via INCREMENTAL growth.

Sadly you have clearly missed the point in why things MUST change.

The public of calderdale can and will continue to pay for the shay to run at a small loss p.a.

Rent payments would help to ease any tension.

I don`t know what makes you so sure of that , I was involved in a small way when the Council were on about cutting rescources for the surestart nurseries last year. Some of the Councilors were embarrased when they were asked why they could subsidise the Shay but not nurseries.

"can and will". Your arrogance knows no bounds. You are now ordering the Calderdale public to finance your hobby.