Leicester's TEAM cost less than 30m.Manure have 4 players who cost more individually...there's more to it than money.

The fire and passion from last year doesn’t seem to be quite the same. Maybe that’s because when things are not quite going for you it’s hard. But last year we celebrated every big hit, every try saving tackle and every try. And then offered more encouragement when we did concede, where we seem to look around for whose fault it is this year. Ben Kaye and Scott Murrell were obvious stand outs last year when it came to this but even they seem more subdued.

Some great posts guys.



Black Cat you said 'Batley are no lesser club than us as some comments have been made. ' I don't know if your saying about my comment on losing to Batley makes a loss harder. That comment is about our rivalery with Batley over the past several seasons having close matches. Northing to do with the size or status of their club.



Hooligan goes on about money. Just because we own money last year does not make us a rich club and start buying players. Having money, full time does not make you a winning team. Look at Sheffield they are slowly going down the table;



I have faith we will be in the top 4. RM has stated its about building from team, squad and club from the bottom up. Doing it the other way around doesn't work

I bet the Leigh supporters asked the same question after Round 1

Why on earth in Ben J being continually overlooked? He is the only SL class (or potential SL) halfback we have?

We didn't because we know our lads played poorly that day. See you at Blackpool Mick I'll be there both days with Ian and Henry.

After reading the last 3 pages, some are right, others not so right. M H O (for what it's worth), and this was commented at the start of the season.

Second season conundrum, other coaches had not seen R M style before, and w e took some by surprise. Now. Coaches may have worked his strategy out and can nullify his game plan.

True it does not help being a tinkerman, and we need a settled core of players that can be augmented with class. I do not get to see games live, so cannot offer an opinion on who should play when and where, better people than me have offered their two penny worth on that score. There is obviously something wrong as many people say the better players are bench warming, are they sulking? Do they not agree to the coaches plans? Does the coach hold a grudge if someone disagrees with him? Somebody may know the answers to these and many other questions, however it does not help players confidence when they read or hear negativity from the stands, and yes the paying public have a fight to their opinion, but rather than bitching get behind the team as you did last year!

So I've said my piece, now shoot me down, because I am 7000 miles away on not allowed a voice.

your comments are welcomed(like anyone else's)but i for one don't buy into this second season syndrome,rugby is a simple game,if played correctly,and i don't beleive we surprised anyone last season by not always employing the upjumper 6 then kick tactic the previous encumbent adopted.

Can someone explain to me where the present "cost of our team" at £750,000 comes from? Are we raeally paying players an average of about £25,000. Or have I missed something?

I know we got good prize money last year, but without the club being open (and they have no reason to be) they could have paid all that to the Board (and I am not saying they did!), at one time didn't the club do an open evening explaining where all the money came from and went?

Pretty sure the funding wasn't used entirely on this season's playing roster and rightly so.The budget was increased to allow 2/3 more recruits with possibly extra to come if the 8s are acheived.The rest will have been used in upgrading the infrastructure and an amount on debts--rent was paid for example as soon as funding was started.

We need to have Johnson and Murrell back in the team at half back for the run in and only change if forced to. Moore has been good but his game doesn't work with Johnson's and Murrell is not a loose forward. Miles offers nothing in attack, his passing game is non-existent and he doesn't seem to back up as often as he used to. Saltonstall to FB, Johnson and Murrell at HB, give it three or four games and we will be back clicking in attack.

I reckon a figure near 400K might just about cover our team and if JK is to be believed thats still about 250K more than the Batley team. I agree with some points about slow and steady building but its also frustrating after last year added to that the stupid amounts of money that Fev have been offering players and maybe we did not have the 4th biggest budget as maybe Sheffield and Fev might have spent more. Fev have gone e or bust though and Im sure if they miss out on the top 4 they will once again have another run in with the tax man, a couple of losses and a couple of missed payments to players can soon wipe out any great team spirit the same as it did for them last year.



As I said before though I do wonder what the plan is if we miss out on the top 4 leaving a shortfall of maybe 300K on this year.

Excellent post on the whole but....I can't agree with this building foundations for the future attitude. How long have we been in the second division? Not once have we ended up at the top of the league. If clubs like Castleford, Salford, Wakefield and even Huddersfield can sustain SL clubs why can't we? I know that a money man makes a lot of difference, but the half hearted attitude to sport in Halifax doesn't help does it? Without ambition we'll get nowhere. As for this season, we need to get back to what made us so good last year to watch as well as getting results. A settled team with our best players playing from 1to13. The top four isn't gone yet but we aren't half making it hard for ourselves. Up The Fax.

Our club, or any club, will not get into Super League under the present format without finding cash above prize money of over £500,000. Castleford, Salford, Wakey and Hudds, all funded by generous people. Dream if you want to, but let's be real about chances.