Agreed. We saw yesterday what we have seen all season-too much spilt ball early in the tackle count and too many penalties to let teams off the hook. Mid and lower placed teams we get by with as they can't capitalise but better teams punish us as happened yesterday. Tolouse were good for their win and London won't be any easier next week as they also looked impressive against Fev.

I have always thought these two games would have a major bearing on our season and I'm afraid London is now a must win to keep in touch with the top four.

We are clueless in attack , but who is to blame for this the players or the coach.

Good question.

I prefer to use the term who is responsible rather than who is to blame but it amounts to the same thing, "accountable" and the book stops with RM and I'm sure he will accept that.



I have been one of his strongest supporters all things considered such as who else was / is available and wanted him to have time to put his stamp on things.



I think he has been given that time or very close to it, and we are getting to the point where despite having a fair turn over of in's and out's on the playing front the vast majority who were either moved on or brought in by him we are making no progress and are in danger of stagnating.



If it was me I would give myself to the end of the season to get it together or seriously consider moving on.

RM has a contract until end of next season...he is going nowhere.

He deserves to stay but he may feel like staying on will hurt his CV.

Your probably right but if I felt I wasn't making sufficient progress or doing a good enough job then I would think long and hard about keeping doing it.

I don't know all the facts about what he has available to do the job, maybe all considered he could be doing well but we haven't won anything and don't look like doing so.

RM is doing his best to get every ounce out of these lads, the simple fact is other teams have moved on, and we haven't been able to afford to in the areas we need to.

Muzza' legs have gone, not going, gone.... we are a little better with Grady and Kaye in, but ultimately unless our pack is steam rolling a side, and we are backing up, were on a hiding to nothing.

I will back RM all the way, and so should we all.

If we can squeeze a couple of inspired games from Muzza, and Johnno and Rob can keep hold of the ball, and offer us credit in attack, we can sneak into the 4 still, but my worry is we now need another club to capitulate, through injuries or disharmony.

Richard is probably more aware than any of us on the areas we need to improve, but we have what we have.

If we could get a month out of AOB that would be a massive tonic.

Mirrors my thoughts. The team have the motivation and energy, but not the skills to make it count. Toulouse were out on their feet in the 2nd half, but we didn't have the guile/skill to take advantage. We can't really blame RM for his recruitment, given the limited funding. What we need is another Martin Hall, who can root out class players willing to give it a go with Fax.



Btw, I still don't understand why the guy with a pair of the biggest hands in RL can't keep hold of the ball? Losing it in the tackle has to be down to technique surely? It's a love/hate thing with Rob!



Btw #2. Muzza might not have a turn of speed on him (a shame, because he can spot a gap better than most in our team), but we need to find a replacement in the motivation and leadership department if he goes. From what I've observed, Mitch might be the man for the job? Maybe Muzza could be the new Martin Hall!!?



Btw #3. Jonno. How frustrating. Great grubber kick on him, but he should be turning into a new Rob Burrow by now. He could be a great player, but needs some serious mentoring to make it happen.



Btw #4. James Woodburn-Hall. He also can be a great player, hopefully for Fax, but does need to learn some positional play on defence (being kind!).



Btw #5. Will Sharp. How hard does he try to make things happen? He's maybe lost a yard of pace (unfortunately), but if the rest of the team had his enthusiasm and commitment we wouldn't go far wrong.



Btw #6. Ben Heaton. Oh Ben, where has that leg drive gone from a couple of seasons ago when you were 5 yards from the line?

We are not quite good enough for top 4 by this game. Woodburn Hall although a good prospect looked a little out of his depth in this game. Muzza went missing and his kicking wasn't up to standard. That been said Toulouse look a good side and wont drop many points on this showing.

Realistically, the top four will come from the current top five. You're the favourites to drop out at present but, on the other hand, you've only two points to make up over eight games.



Not an impossible target.

Might as well be 4 points given points difference.

Bit hard when we can not score