Seems to be alot of it about AG gathering pace and IF it's true it needs sorting 1 way or the other ASAP we can't have it stewing during the off/pre-season and start next year with unrest and division behind the scenes.

I don't know what you have heard, but I heard a lot of players were pretty pished off at Barrie McDermotts comments on sky on the Bailey/Radford incident, losing a lot of respect, and yet the club have done nothing about that.

It's more fundamental than that Gotcha, suffice to say some of the feedback from the players indicates that McLennan's input on the training field and attitude to coaching is more Doug Laughton than Ellery Hanley...

The fact is neither Diskin or Buderus have been playing well consistantly. I do feel however Buderus has played better than Diskiin has for us. I feel Diskin is a shadow of his former self, lost some pace and no longer looks a threat from DH. Buderus has at times looked world class, but not on enough occasions imo to justify the money spent on him (salary). Buderus on his day though is by far the better hooker. And for those saying either cost us the game is just utter nonsense and laughable.

But we have brought in a first class coach for next year to work with him, that should solve that issue. BM was regarded as important for Smiths role with the club, and certainly got a glowing reference from all players whilst here.

Yes very good point.

I hope/think that you're right and that Brian Mc will have a positive influence but if Bluey has "lost" the dressing room or the divisions continue then it may be too late to be smoothed over.

My main point was that the interchange of Buderus and Diskin patently is not effective.....never has been. We seemed to be maintaining control with Buderus on the field.....then on came Diskin.

I repeat I do not have an agenda....but really see no point in wasting a bench spot to bring on a player who is generally inferior in all areas. Diskin does not come on and potentially change the dynamics in our favour with something different like a Roby does for a Cunningham.



Buderus might have been disappointing but castigating him for the penalties is harsh. Webb held onto Richards' leg for an eternity but was lucky to escape a penalty... Penalties are a lottery sometimes as we well know. But a terrible pass to Sinfield on the wigan line was an inferior skill.



I would be more happy if both were dropped for the start of 2011 and we looked to the future with the next generation of McShane and/or Hood. However, of the two old timers Buderus has much more to offer and, as many continue to state, should be given the full 80 for a lengthy enough period for us to properly judge him. If he fails to impress fair enough...bring back Diskin to play the full 80.



Again I really genuinely cannot see what the likes of Emma, Danny and Gareth see in Diskin. It's bordering on fanatical hero-worship....maybe one or all of them are ex lovers of the man ??



More surprised with Batley rhino though.

I think what they and others see in Disko mate is a 1st choice 80 minute 9 who has played a major role in us winning 3-in-a-row and has proved his worth to Leeds in numerous finals etc etc etc.

I haven't seen anyone question whether or not Buderus is a good player but he was signed and that has been seen as not needed and has had a negative effect on Diskos game whilst the praise has gone to Buderus when we've won feck all with him as 1st choice 9.

Now i like Buderus and think he offers us quality in the 9 position but i think the rotation hasn't worked when he's started so why not start Disko?

We tried once or twice and it seemed to go ok and i will also add it's not Disjkos fault if we lose momentum when Buderus goes off it's a 13 man game and it can't just down to 1 player if we squander a lead or lose a match.

If both have to be included in the game day 17 (not that I think they should be) then I would perhaps like to see Diskin start and Buderus take over on twenty / twenty five and play out the game from there. Diskin would then be available to mix and match back row from the bench if required.



Buderus is the better hooker but the way he has been used at Leeds has failed to make the most of his ability. A failure of team selection/coaching, IMO.

That has also failed Disko imo but i also think both of them have to take some responsabillity for poor form.

I think with McDermotts input next year, you might find Diskin been used as he should be next year.



How has McDermott used Randall for the last few years? I am pretty confident that will be Buderus next year.