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Quote rhinobucs="rhinobucs"Pot calling kettle black re obsession! See you're avatar and stupid comments at the bottom of every post and your continual posts re the ability or lack of it of Kirke(yet again implied in the last line of your previous post)
He made 34 tackles not 40! How many of those were his usual soft cock 3rd in.
No silly penalties. So we should treat that as exceptional should we, that he's not his usual d1ck head self?
Bumping them off in the drive....when? God forbid if he every runs at pace into a defensive line.
There because we're desperate!'"
Apparently he made 38 tackles, so yes 'nearly 40' superleague.co.uk/report/10019
The 2nd highest tackler. I like him steaming in as 3rd man and rattling someone. It's called rugby.
also made 2 tackle busts as well, so must be hitting the line at decent speed. But they probably slipped or something, to suit your agenda.
Post about something that's not related to Bailey, it's yet to be seen. Did the big nasty man twist your nipple at some point?
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Quote rhinobucs="rhinobucs"Pot calling kettle black re obsession! See you're avatar and stupid comments at the bottom of every post and your continual posts re the ability or lack of it of Kirke(yet again implied in the last line of your previous post)
He made 34 tackles not 40! How many of those were his usual soft cock 3rd in.
No silly penalties. So we should treat that as exceptional should we, that he's not his usual d1ck head self?
Bumping them off in the drive....when? God forbid if he every runs at pace into a defensive line.
There because we're desperate!'"
Apparently he made 38 tackles, so yes 'nearly 40' superleague.co.uk/report/10019
The 2nd highest tackler. I like him steaming in as 3rd man and rattling someone. It's called rugby.
also made 2 tackle busts as well, so must be hitting the line at decent speed. But they probably slipped or something, to suit your agenda.
Post about something that's not related to Bailey, it's yet to be seen. Did the big nasty man twist your nipple at some point?
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| Quote Gotcha="Gotcha"I thought Achurch did great in defence for the time he was on. Not sure how many tackles, but wouldn't be surprised to see him in top 3 at all.
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I thought he fell off at least two simple tackles for two of their tries.
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| Glad I only bought the kids that yellow top now because some players looked quite big in it to say the least 
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| Quote G1="G1"I thought he fell off at least two simple tackles for two of their tries.'"
I think he was the player wasn't he that slipped off the players legs for the try at the start of the second half? but the other two in front should still have stopped that, so I would put their efforts as worse.
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Quote thebloodbath="thebloodbath"Apparently he made 38 tackles, so yes 'nearly 40' superleague.co.uk/report/10019
The 2nd highest tackler. I like him steaming in as 3rd man and rattling someone. It's called rugby.
also made 2 tackle busts as well, so must be hitting the line at decent speed. But they probably slipped or something, to suit your agenda.
Post about something that's not related to Bailey, it's yet to be seen. Did the big nasty man twist your nipple at some point?'"
You may recall Kirke made 37 tackles against Warrington and who was then called by some a shirker and who is now called a passenger by you.
The phrases "steaming in" and "hitting the line at speed" are not ones that come readily to mind when assessing Bailey, but I guess that anyone who has such a camp avitar of Mr B has to have a sense of humour.
Bailey and Kirke fullfill similar roles at Leeds and are picked for their defence and experience and not for their carries. Both are past their prime but replacements like Singleton who despite showing the early promise have not progressed enough yet to replace either in the first team on a regular basis just yet.
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Quote thebloodbath="thebloodbath"Apparently he made 38 tackles, so yes 'nearly 40' superleague.co.uk/report/10019
The 2nd highest tackler. I like him steaming in as 3rd man and rattling someone. It's called rugby.
also made 2 tackle busts as well, so must be hitting the line at decent speed. But they probably slipped or something, to suit your agenda.
Post about something that's not related to Bailey, it's yet to be seen. Did the big nasty man twist your nipple at some point?'"
You may recall Kirke made 37 tackles against Warrington and who was then called by some a shirker and who is now called a passenger by you.
The phrases "steaming in" and "hitting the line at speed" are not ones that come readily to mind when assessing Bailey, but I guess that anyone who has such a camp avitar of Mr B has to have a sense of humour.
Bailey and Kirke fullfill similar roles at Leeds and are picked for their defence and experience and not for their carries. Both are past their prime but replacements like Singleton who despite showing the early promise have not progressed enough yet to replace either in the first team on a regular basis just yet.
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| Quote Gotcha="Gotcha"I think he was the player wasn't he that slipped off the players legs for the try at the start of the second half? but the other two in front should still have stopped that, so I would put their efforts as worse.'"
Yes, that was a bad miss. It was his tackle to make. There was also some lazy work on an inside ball for a try in the 1st half and the try Pryce created after getting it from the Southstand was built on a quick play the ball where he laid on the floor after being dominated by the runner.
The guy's coming back from injury and like bloodbath says he's better with more game time but I wouldn't call what he did yesterday as great defence, not that he was alone in that category.
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| A lot fewer missed tackles than usual recorded by Opts despite us appearing to miss more tackles than usual. It seems different stat compilers have different definitions of what constitutes a missed tackle. As usual, the stats can either be taken with a pinch of salt or according to agenda.
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| Quote Juan Cornetto="Juan Cornetto"You may recall Kirke made 37 tackles against Warrington and who was then called by some a shirker and who is now called a passenger by you.
'" You may recall Kirke and Kirke alone put us in a 12 point deficit in that game. Bailey didn't do that.
Baliey aint no great shakes but he is a million miles better player than Kirke.
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| Quote G1="G1"You may recall Kirke and Kirke alone put us in a 12 point deficit in that game. Bailey didn't do that.
Baliey aint no great shakes but he is a million miles better player than Kirke.'"
They both have their bad days equally IMO and I cannot see clear water between them let alone a million miles. Like I said they are both past their prime and neither are as reliable on defence as they once were. They are both benchmen fighting for the same spot in my view but no one has shown enough yet to take that place from them. Yates could be fit soon and he should get a chance.
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| Quote Juan Cornetto="Juan Cornetto"You may recall Kirke made 37 tackles against Warrington and who was then called by some a shirker and who is now called a passenger by you. '"
He put us 12-0 down in that game by making 2 vital errors. His overall tackle count is irrelevant. There was no coming back from that, in that game.
Quote Juan Cornetto="Juan Cornetto"
The phrases "steaming in" and "hitting the line at speed" are not ones that come readily to mind when assessing Bailey, but I guess that anyone who has such a camp avitar of Mr B has to have a sense of humour.
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But his improved metre making and tackle busts suggest that it does.....
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Bailey and Kirke fullfill similar roles at Leeds and are picked for their defence and experience and not for their carries. Both are past their prime but replacements like Singleton who despite showing the early promise have not progressed enough yet to replace either in the first team on a regular basis just yet '"
I know who is better value.
As for Bailey against Catalans was defending smarter than the average Leeds player (i dont mean stat wise, i mean in context). He was only one of a few who when tackling was getting the ball carrier on his back. Catalans tactic was for their ball carrier to land on their belly to achieve a quick play the ball and win the ruck. Which they did overall.
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| Quote Juan Cornetto="Juan Cornetto"I cannot see clear water between them let alone a million miles.'" That's fine. Everyone is entitled to an opinion.
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| Quote thebloodbath="thebloodbath"He put us 12-0 down in that game by making 2 vital errors. His overall tackle count is irrelevant. There was no coming back from that, in that game.
But his improved metre making and tackle busts suggest that it does.....
I know who is better value.
As for Bailey against Catalans was defending smarter than the average Leeds player (i dont mean stat wise, i mean in context). He was only one of a few who when tackling was getting the ball carrier on his back. Catalans tactic was for their ball carrier to land on their belly to achieve a quick play the ball and win the ruck. Which they did overall.'"
Clutching at straws BB
Bailey being "smarter" is another description that appeals to my sense of humour  You regard 48 metres as making an improvement but all it does is highlight Bailey's limitations.
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