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| ZAK IS BACK: Part 2. THIS TIME ITS PERSONAL
Or is it part 3? 4?...
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| Quote craigizzard="craigizzard"So far his offences in total are falling foul of (along with ultra-professional James Graham) McNamara's unnecessary ego games and missing curfew; Being caught on camera shouting an offensive word during a game that dozens of players have said before; Being a young single man in a halls of residence after hours well away from game day. None of this is perfect, but none of it is extraordinary either.
Add to that his physical disciplinary record on the field is pretty much perfect. This is hardly Gareth Hock. Not sure how much of Sam's bad name is deserved, though it certainly suits fans of other clubs to destabilize him and Leeds to the extent he'll be pushed out. Disappointing that some of our own fans are helping with that work.'"
Should have read Zak not Sam (autocorrect), though non-Wigan fans were very keen to blow anything Sam T did out of proportion for probably exactly the same reasons.
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| Quote craigizzard="craigizzard"Add to that his physical disciplinary record on the field is pretty much perfect. This is hardly Gareth Hock. '"
No. More Lee Smith, I'd have said. Hence the concern.
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| Quote craigizzard="craigizzard"So far his offences in total are falling foul of (along with ultra-professional James Graham) McNamara's unnecessary ego games and missing curfew; Being caught on camera shouting an offensive word during a game that dozens of players have said before; Being a young single man in a halls of residence after hours well away from game day. None of this is perfect, but none of it is extraordinary either.
Add to that his physical disciplinary record on the field is pretty much perfect. This is hardly Gareth Hock. Not sure how much of Sam's bad name is deserved, though it certainly suits fans of other clubs to destabilize him and Leeds to the extent he'll be pushed out. Disappointing that some of our own fans are helping with that work.'"
You forgot that he blew a kiss at another player and even though his head turned away from camera shot some managed to lip read the word "puff".
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| Quote Superted="Superted"I think that's slightly unfair - there are no charges from the Police and no evidence of him actually having done anything wrong.
His list of 'indiscretions' are hardly major events - infact, I'd say the majority of young blokes say and do a lot worse and commit more 'offences' in 1 night on the grog than Zak has during his time at Leeds.'"
Quite correct, it's not as if he wanted some hot food when none was available and then punched someone.
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| That's good news. Hopefully this will be the last of it. Perhaps the club should invest in a minder for Zak? A good reason to re-sign Kirke from Wakefield - he seemed a sensible chap, has a good turn of pace for a big man and a track record for running down outside backs 
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| I think Zak will still have his sights on the NRL
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| YEP just confirmed Zak/Elliot admitted to the assault, got away with a £200 fine each and an apology.
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| Interestingly, West Yorkshire police have filled in the gaps in the club's statement albeit not directly.
Turns out Hardaker and Minchella have admitted to the assault (which the club "forgot" to mention in its statement) and have agreed a community restitution consisting of a £200 fine and a written apology to the victim rather than criminal charges.
So not quite the "not guilty" the club tried to paint it as.
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| The fact both got off with little more than a £200 fine each in a situation where two people have assaulted someone should tell you there's a hell of a lot more to what actually happened rather than it being a straight forward assault.
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| Quote Claypitrhino="Claypitrhino"The fact both got off with little more than a £200 fine each in a situation where two people have assaulted someone should tell you there's a hell of a lot more to what actually happened rather than it being a straight forward assault.'"
That's pretty much how I see it too.
That's not to excuse Hardaker & Minchella but as you say it's not a straight forward case.
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| aye, if it were a straight forward case of a 2 v 1 assault the CPS would love to hang two local celebs by the nearest lamp post. somethings not being said.
main this is Leeds have stated that both players are available for selection.
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| Anyone else think that perhaps as this happened before Hardaker moved in with his team mates and the club apparently knew about it for several weeks, that maybe they've encouraged the move for the next five months to try and keep him put of trouble and help him grow up a bit?
Just a theory but makes sense.
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| Quote Claypitrhino="Claypitrhino"The fact both got off with little more than a £200 fine each in a situation where two people have assaulted someone should tell you there's a hell of a lot more to what actually happened rather than it being a straight forward assault.'"
As I see it. They've ended up in some student accommodation with some of the students from there. It's in the early hours and one student who has probably got to be up early for an exam or to hug a tree has come out complaining about noise, they've argued, couple of punches thrown, end of.
More a fight, all be it a one sided one as you would expect with a RL player vs a tax dodger. Assualt and attack are exaggerated terms, hardly like he's ended up with broken ribs, broken leg, internal injuries......just some black eyes and a bit of brushing on his neck, probably took two punches at most. Probably just thought it was a golden chance for a bit of compo (why he went to the club first apparently) to pay some of his uni fees or buy some weed with. The players and club, happy to oblige so it can be sorted and moved on with quickly and easily.
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