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| I thought today that Wigan were solid in defence but on the whole pretty ordinary, and there for the taking by a genuine top class team.
Sadly Saints look at present like a side for whom its about finishing in the top 8 rather than top 3
We are desperately short of strike power in the three quarters, and despite the fact that Wello was in many respects one of our better players, i do think that at times such as today he is as much a hindrance to our attacking structure than anything else due to slowing down the entire move.
I regard Wigan as the best Wrestling team in the league. They slow teams down better than anyone. Tie that in with our game plan which involves running off Robys scoots, and we are going to come up short against Wigan time and time again. This will happen until we have the players to enable us to adopt a different more fluid style of attack involving the three quarters.
Other teams like Warrington, Huddersfield, Leeds and Catalan have far more balanced attack and can therefore cause Wigan all sorts of problems that Saints cant.
These other sides, with the possible exception of Huddersfield dont handle the wrestle situation anything like as well as Wigan as such we are capable of defeating them through our scoot and go gameplan.
For me we are only a couple of players and a good coach short of being a top class site.
The players we need are fast dangerous threequarters.
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| Quote WidnesExile="WidnesExile"Now you've just embarrassed yourself!'"
Why unless his pack is on top he is useless. His all round game is very limited and he often makes Saints one dimensional. McIlorum has more of an all round game and is a better starting hooker imo. I am not saying that Roby wouldnt make Wigan's 17, he would, it would just be on the bench for his impact.
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| Quote dubairl="dubairl"apart from roby not another one of your players would get into are sqaud so you dont
1. tomkins 1. wellens. not even close
2. charnley 2. makinson. close but this season shows charnley
3. goulding 3. wheeler didn't really trouble hughes and he is a 2nd row player Centre
4. carmont 4. shenton not even close
5. richards 5. meli not even close
6. finch 6. lance not even close
7. tommy 7. lomax in a few years maybe but for now NO!
8. mossop 8. perry not even close
9. micky 9. roby micky has got the better of roby on more than one occasion but roby is more established
10. prescott 10. lafranchi it is close but i still stick with prescott
11. hansen 11. afro top hansen by far the most under rated 2nd row in superleague hes fantastic.
12. hock 12. TP wouldn't swap him for any 2nd row in the world.
13. o'loughlin 13. wilkin not even close'"
Wow, thanks for spending the time writing such a balanced post.
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| Quote Billinge_Lump="Billinge_Lump"Wow, thanks for spending the time writing such a balanced post.'"
All true though.
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| Quote Famous="Famous"All true though.'"
Yes, of course it is.
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Quote Famous="Famous"I genuinly believe that only 1 Saints player, in Roby, would make the Wigan 17. Even then I would only have Roby on the bench and would have McIlorum starting.'"
Quote Famous="dubairl"apart from roby not another one of your players would get into are sqaud so you dont
1. tomkins 1. wellens. not even close
2. charnley 2. makinson. close but this season shows charnley
3. goulding 3. wheeler didn't really trouble hughes and he is a 2nd row player Centre
4. carmont 4. shenton not even close
5. richards 5. meli not even close
6. finch 6. lance not even close
7. tommy 7. lomax in a few years maybe but for now NO!
8. mossop 8. perry not even close
9. micky 9. roby micky has got the better of roby on more than one occasion but roby is more established
10. prescott 10. lafranchi it is close but i still stick with prescott
11. hansen 11. afro top hansen by far the most under rated 2nd row in superleague hes fantastic.
12. hock 12. TP wouldn't swap him for any 2nd row in the world.
13. o'loughlin 13. wilkin not even close'"
I believe the 'let's all lick Wigan forum' is over here - viewforum.php?f=28&tsmp=1336843745
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Quote Famous="Famous"I genuinly believe that only 1 Saints player, in Roby, would make the Wigan 17. Even then I would only have Roby on the bench and would have McIlorum starting.'"
Quote Famous="dubairl"apart from roby not another one of your players would get into are sqaud so you dont
1. tomkins 1. wellens. not even close
2. charnley 2. makinson. close but this season shows charnley
3. goulding 3. wheeler didn't really trouble hughes and he is a 2nd row player Centre
4. carmont 4. shenton not even close
5. richards 5. meli not even close
6. finch 6. lance not even close
7. tommy 7. lomax in a few years maybe but for now NO!
8. mossop 8. perry not even close
9. micky 9. roby micky has got the better of roby on more than one occasion but roby is more established
10. prescott 10. lafranchi it is close but i still stick with prescott
11. hansen 11. afro top hansen by far the most under rated 2nd row in superleague hes fantastic.
12. hock 12. TP wouldn't swap him for any 2nd row in the world.
13. o'loughlin 13. wilkin not even close'"
I believe the 'let's all lick Wigan forum' is over here - viewforum.php?f=28&tsmp=1336843745
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| Quote Famous="Famous"Why unless his pack is on top he is useless. '"
So like any other back/hooker then yes?
Quote FamousHis all round game is very limited and he often makes Saints one dimensional.'"
Roby is our best defender, best support player, best meter gainer, etc...
Far from one dimensional I'm afraid.
Quote FamousI am not saying that Roby wouldnt make Wigan's 17, he would, it would just be on the bench for his impact.'"
Now you're being silly
Quote FamousMcIlorum has more of an all round game and is a better starting hooker imo'"
That post has sure made my day
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| Quote Famous="Famous"Why unless his pack is on top he is useless. His all round game is very limited and he often makes Saints one dimensional. McIlorum has more of an all round game and is a better starting hooker imo. I am not saying that Roby wouldnt make Wigan's 17, he would, it would just be on the bench for his impact.'"
 Are you on glue or something ??
You are obviously orgasmic about todays win , but I had to read your post a few times over just to make sure you were been serious , still not sure we are talking about the same James Roby .
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| Quote Famous="Famous" Even then I would only have Roby on the bench and would have McIlorum starting.'"
That's the most biased thing I've ever seen written by anyone.
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| That post is worthy of being in my signiture...
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| Quote Albion="Albion"That post is worthy of being in my signiture...'"
Thanks 
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| Is that Wheeler naturally a centre? People give Shenton some hammer but this guy didn't look anything other then a championship plodder. Where's Gaskel and TP? Wellens has definitely had his day, but whilst he's fit, hohaia wont get a chance to play full back and will continue to be average at 6. It definitely isn't doom and gloom for you lot, as you showed when you battered leeds & wire, that you can beat anyone on your day, i think you need to just accept this year has a bit of dip then go stronger next year.
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