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| Quote SaintsFan="SaintsFan"As with all our young players from last season, he's gone backwards. That would be the coach, not the player.'"
I'd disagree on this one. Centre has been the one position open to young players trying to make a break through into the first team. Wheeler was in competition with Jones and Jones got the nod ahead of Wheeler. So were as others have been effectively frozen out by older players, wheeler has been in direct competition with his peer. He has also had oppertunities to regain that place from Jones.
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| Quote SaintsFan="SaintsFan"Personally I wouldn't play Gardner. It's play off time. He's been out too long. He shouldn't even be considered.'"
He needed a run out in one of the latter superleague games, can,t have much match awareness so agree don,t think he should be in the 17, unless there are some injury doubts.
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| Same team as last week but wheeler centre and sia on the bench.
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| Quote bewareshadows="bewareshadows"Wheeler was in competition with Jones and Jones got the nod ahead of Wheeler. So were as others have been effectively frozen out by older players, wheeler has been in direct competition with his peer. He has also had oppertunities to regain that place from Jones.'"
Wheeler hasn't stood a chance since Simmons left. Same for Gaskell, Foster and Dixon. Makinson has only been playing because Gardner has been a long term injury. It wouldn't surprise me if Makinson was dropped this week for Gardner.
I can't wait for Rush to go.
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| Quote SaintsFan="SaintsFan"Wheeler hasn't stood a chance since Simmons left. Same for Gaskell, Foster and Dixon. Makinson has only been playing because Gardner has been a long term injury. It wouldn't surprise me if Makinson was dropped this week for Gardner.
I can't wait for Rush to go.'"
To be fair on rush, he was always going to be judged on winning games and he's done that. He got us to third and that's where most thought we'd finish before season started.
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| Quote Ninja saint="Ninja saint"To be fair on rush, he was always going to be judged on winning games and he's done that. He got us to third and that's where most thought we'd finish before season started.'"
Well, some people judge him on winning games. Others judge him on other things. For me, we could have ended up in third with a monkey in charge since we've been ending up in the top four since 2004 and how many coaches have we had in that period? However, Rush has wasted an opportunity to build on the experience our young talent got last season, favouring old blokes even when they are rubbish, lazy or lacking in the necessary skill. He has also turned us in to a team playing the worst possible style of rugby imaginable and then not doing it well either.
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| Quote SaintsFan="SaintsFan"Wheeler hasn't stood a chance since Simmons left. Same for Gaskell, Foster and Dixon. Makinson has only been playing because Gardner has been a long term injury. It wouldn't surprise me if Makinson was dropped this week for Gardner.
I can't wait for Rush to go.'"
But Wheeler did stand a chance, unlike the rest. Or do you think that Jones should not have got in ahead of Wheeler.
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| Quote bewareshadows="bewareshadows"But Wheeler did stand a chance, unlike the rest. Or do you think that Jones should not have got in ahead of Wheeler.'"
Wheeler was dropped when Simmons was sacked. He's hardly played first team rugby since. Same with Gaskell and Dixon. And of course Foster has been shipped out completely.
I think Wheeler was doing fine before Simmons was sacked. He had been consistently one of our best players. There was no reason whatsoever to drop him as his form was good. IMO Rush wanted Jones, so Jones it was.
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| Quote SaintsFan="SaintsFan"Wheeler was dropped when Simmons was sacked. He's hardly played first team rugby since. Same with Gaskell and Dixon. And of course Foster has been shipped out completely.
I think Wheeler was doing fine before Simmons was sacked. He had been consistently one of our best players. There was no reason whatsoever to drop him as his form was good. IMO Rush wanted Jones, so Jones it was.'"
Wheeler was awful in the vast majority of games he played, choosing wrong options, being beat in defence, throwing awful passes. Jones has been consistently very good and has earned his shirt over Wheeler. I don't see your problem, rather just another chance for you to have a pop at rush, unnecessarily in this case.
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| Quote BackrowSaint="BackrowSaint"Wheeler was awful in the vast majority of games he played, choosing wrong options, being beat in defence, throwing awful passes. Jones has been consistently very good and has earned his shirt over Wheeler. I don't see your problem, rather just another chance for you to have a pop at rush, unnecessarily in this case.'"
You need to learn how to read a post.
I said that Wheeler was one of our best players before Simmons was sacked. How was that a comment on Wheeler's performance subsequent to Rush taking over? That's right. It wasn't.
Wheeler's form was great under Simmons. And lots of people on here were also saying Wheeler was one of our standout players at the start of the season, so I wasn't alone in that opinion (for once), not by a long chalk.
Wheeler was dropped by Rush IN SPITE OF being in good form, and replaced by Jones. Wheeler has looked poor in every match he has played since. No surprise really. All our young players from last season have gone backwards under Rush.
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| Quote SaintsFan="SaintsFan"You need to learn how to read a post.
I said that Wheeler was one of our best players before Simmons was sacked. How was that a comment on Wheeler's performance subsequent to Rush taking over? That's right. It wasn't.
Wheeler's form was great under Simmons. And lots of people on here were also saying Wheeler was one of our standout players at the start of the season, so I wasn't alone in that opinion (for once), not by a long chalk.
Wheeler was dropped by Rush IN SPITE OF being in good form, and replaced by Jones. Wheeler has looked poor in every match he has played since. No surprise really. All our young players from last season have gone backwards under Rush.'"
But he wasn't though, he had a couple of good games under Royce. He then had a couple of awful games under Rush and was subsequently dropped.
I can assure you I'm perfectly capable of reading your posts, I even managed a dot to dot last night.
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| Quote BackrowSaint="BackrowSaint"But he wasn't though, he had a couple of good games under Royce. He then had a couple of awful games under Rush and was subsequently dropped.'"
But you're wrong though.
You're also incredibly childish.
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