I think the Bulls put too much emphasis on the fact we were a winning team in the first decade of SL. Not very futureproof, not enough to keep all the fans we picked up and now there's a sense that a trophyless year means that the fans have been duped.



A winning team puts bums on seats but no club in any sport can guarantee that year in year out. I don't think the emphasis RL adminstrators put on it is healthy for the sport. By definition, a minimum of twelve clubs in SL end up as losers every year.

The Bulls will always have the loyal support base, like myself, who will by a season ticket regardless of expectations. The problem we have next year is that many tickets were purchased by 'fringe supporters' who bought into the 'whole new beginning' pitch that the club sold. How many will buy into that again? As I said earlier, I persuaded 5 people to buy tickets, none thought we would win anything' but all expected a good game day experience. What they actually got was poor rugby and flat atmospheres. None of them will be interested in buying another next year. How many others will feel the same?

Agree i think we will srtruggle to get 11k but i will still be buying mine for next season, not sure about the family though its hard to get people to watch a shower of that week in week out. Hope MP can turn it around next season, otherwise we will struggle.

If your a loyal supporter and support bulls through the thick and thin you will buy one. The people who dont will be like you say not the true fans... however if its £60 or cheaper or a bit more its still very cheap considering what you pay on match day so could still tempt few people.

Not entirely true - value for money was given by Cas h, Wakey h, Saints h, Hudds h. Add in two fairly meh wins over Salford and Quins, entertaining losses to Leeds and Catalans, and two gubbings by Wigan and Wire (not sure how to categorise Hull) and I'd say they've had their money's worth.



I appreciate that people don't seem to see it that way, but sixty quid for that lot is not shabby at all.

If we had to rely just on "true fans" for income, the club would go bust tomorrow. Like it or not, we need a large number of discretionary fans to pay the bills.

I totally agree. It has been fantastic value for money and I'll jump at the chance to buy a cheap season ticket, but I'm a bulls supporter. The people I persuaded to buy tickets liked the bulls but have only ever been to the odd game. I talked them into buying it. The general consensus was that they had their value for money but weren't impressed enough to go around again. Fair enough, but how many more people who bought tickets this year will feel the same? Quite a few I reckon.

I seem to remembering us saying the same about the pledge last year. The team is better than last year (just) so i can't see why we can't get 10,000 again but it will be a push for 11k plus.

Aye with hindsight this letter should have come out straight after the Hudds game shouldn't it? I think we will have a team on paper better than this years, but I thought this one would be leagues above the Orford-less 2010 side. I think we'll get higher numbers than recent years but probably a drop from this years campaign.

The real problem is that many people bought into the Potter regime being the end of a tough few years and the start of something much better. A marginal improvement on 2010 does not equate to those expectations, however misguided or unrealistic those aspirations may have been.



It's almost impossible to sell the reboot of the club two years in a row and have those same fans buy it when they feel let down after the first one.



The only way to generate buzz after the on field disappointment is with top class signings, and those type of players are way out of the Bulls league unfortunately.



Even a marketing genius would struggle to sell this one.

Well, I know of 2 fans who didnt have a season ticket this year, they will have one next season though so it's not all doom and gloom. Let the glory supporters come and go and the dedicated supporters will always stay.

I am going to be away for the Hull KR game so will miss the announcment. Good luck with this one though Bulls.



I have £50 of Bulls vouchers to spend though so whatever they end up costing won't be so bad.