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|  ?Quite agree, might have been better not to publish this. Thanks for all their help, but we need to find our own feet first. Quote M@islebugs="M@islebugs"I can understand Cummins meeting Hetherington and picking his brains. I can't for the life of me understand why you'd wish to publicise it in a newspaper article.'"
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| Quote jonte="jonte"eusa_think.gif ?Quite agree, might have been better not to publish this. Thanks for all their help, but we need to find our own feet first.'"
Finding our feet is what we are doing.
There is much that can be learned from communication with others that are already on their feet, in particlarly Leeds who have damn large feet stood 4 sqaure on solid ground.
Why would Leeds offer the Bulls advice on a whole range of issues?
Perhaps he is more savvy to the competative nature needed in SL than next year's fixtures seem to be from the lower teams. (No disrespect to any team)
SL clubs will have to work together, share expertise, and management knowledge otherwise we could end up with fewer teams in SL than optimum.
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| Quote Stul="Stul"I think a certain amount of 'hatred' maybe focussed a little to the South this year, rather than the East.'"
And so it should be. Huddersfield are the lowest club in Super League and not respected by any other club.
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| Quote bobsmyuncle="bobsmyuncle"Finding our feet is what we are doing.
There is much that can be learned from communication with others that are already on their feet, in particlarly Leeds who have damn large feet stood 4 sqaure on solid ground.
Why would Leeds offer the Bulls advice on a whole range of issues?
Perhaps he is more savvy to the competative nature needed in SL than next year's fixtures seem to be from the lower teams. (No disrespect to any team)
SL clubs will have to work together, share expertise, and management knowledge otherwise we could end up with fewer teams in SL than optimum.'"
Not disagreeing with any of that. The error is in framing of the picture and the message it sends out about both the level of expertise within the club, and the relative status of each club.
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| Quote bullinenemyland="bullinenemyland"They;re not really legitimate faults to be honest. just think in the past he could have handled a few things in a different manner. For many years he came across (and still does on occasions) as a bit pompous and self righteous.
However, the help he's given over the last year has to be credited.'"
I've never had anything but admiration for Hetherington, even when he was my old clubs South Yorkshire rivals. He has shown he can coach & he can also be an astute & ruthless businessman. He is RL through & through, despite his necessary involvement with the Takes. I went to a RL in Literature discussion a few years back, he was the only senior RL figure there in the audience (apart from Bullseye).
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| Quote tigertot="tigertot"I've never had anything but admiration for Hetherington, even when he was my old clubs South Yorkshire rivals. He has shown he can coach & he can also be an astute & ruthless businessman. He is RL through & through, despite his necessary involvement with the Takes. I went to a RL in Literature discussion a few years back, he was the only senior RL figure there in the audience (apart from Bullseye).'"
Bullseye would have been there Autograph Hunting! Did he get Yours??
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| I am glad we are seeking advice from a successful club, and Leeds' successes do deserve praise. But lets not forget that Leeds have several advantages over the other Superleague clubs. Leeds is a vibrant area with two very good universities, and several very nice, affluent suburbs and satellite towns. the "Leeds City region" is named such because Leeds as a city is a place that is thriving!
It is the only true Big City club in Superleague, that does not have more than one SL club in it! That means there are more people to target. Add to that the partial demise of Leeds UNited over the last 10 years and there are lots of people to target.
Having said all that, its pretty cool in this day in age that GH and his organisation have been there when we needed them this last 8-9 months! from advice, to gate money, to line paint!
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| How can two relative novices (in the business side of things), employed by a man who is a novice in RL terms, seeking advice from the most successful club of the last 5 yerars, who both were once employed by, be anything other than goood?
If we had taken a leaf out of their book sooner, we might have avoided the crisis!
We should know our place! At the moment we are nowhere near Leeds in Rugby or Business terms. We need to close that gap in both aspects of ther operation. Publicising this isnt a problem for me, as it shows that efforts are being made to rectify a shortfall in knowledge. This can only benefit our club long term. Even if it is from Leeds!
Learn from the best, and you can only improve!
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| Quote isaac1="isaac1"How can two relative novices (in the business side of things), employed by a man who is a novice in RL terms, seeking advice from the most successful club of the last 5 yerars, who both were once employed by, be anything other than goood?
If we had taken a leaf out of their book sooner, we might have avoided the crisis!
We should know our place! At the moment we are nowhere near Leeds in Rugby or Business terms. We need to close that gap in both aspects of ther operation. Publicising this isnt a problem for me, as it shows that efforts are being made to rectify a shortfall in knowledge. This can only benefit our club long term. Even if it is from Leeds!
Learn from the best, and you can only improve!'"
This.
Especially the leaf in the book which said "Oy, you can't sign Harris!", perhaps?
Across the board, the worst kind of person to have working for you is the person who thinks they already know it all, even after 2 minutes in the job, and who steadfastly refuses to take advice from anybody. I really don't understand why anyone would have a problem with it.
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| Quote Ferocious Aardvark="Ferocious Aardvark"This.
Especially the leaf in the book which said "Oy, you can't sign Harris!", perhaps?
Across the board, the worst kind of person to have working for you is the person who thinks they already know it all, even after 2 minutes in the job, and who steadfastly refuses to take advice from anybody. I really don't understand why anyone would have a problem with it.'"
The advice isn't the point. From a marketing perspective it's a dreadful piece which casts the club in a negative light.
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| Quote M@islebugs="M@islebugs"The advice isn't the point. From a marketing perspective it's a dreadful piece which casts the club in a negative light.'"
No, that's your view, not some sort of fact. In my opinion, I really don't see the problem. It's just a snippet anyway which will be dead and buried by Monday. I would see it as almost totally irrelevant to marketing.
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| Quote Ferocious Aardvark="Ferocious Aardvark"No, that's your view, not some sort of fact. In my opinion, I really don't see the problem. It's just a snippet anyway which will be dead and buried by Monday. I would see it as almost totally irrelevant to marketing.'"
It's flattering that you feel compelled to differentiate between my 'views' and 'fact' but I'm not sure there's any need. For clarity, I'm not relying on tested hypotheses but as someone put a post up I thought we could discuss the merits of the article.
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