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| We will not be relegated this season.....you heard it here first  We will win just enough games 
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| Relegation isn't really relegation this year anyway. The size of the parachute payments mean you can stay full time so when the league splits you'll be competing with the superleague clubs. Forget about the championship clubs they'll not be able to compete consistently on part time funding so they're out of the picture.
But it won't affect us well stay up. If it's less than an unlikely 50 points deduction they're still be some angry people in small towns like Halifax and Wakefield.
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| I think we have to take this on the chin and move on.
As supporters we'll always know that we tried to do the right thing and raise £500k but unfortunately the calamity which befell us and for which none of us are responsible, was too great.
The T and A says Wakefield have petitioned the RFL and this is no surprise but I think Michael Carter needs to look closer to home. There've been more posts from WTW fans on Rlfans than there were fans in the ground on Thursday night. This episode shames them even more than their refusal to put their hands in their pockets and shoulder some of the club debts.
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| My consistent view has been, and remains:
1 - Settle with all third-party creditors - nil point deduction
2 - Settle with, at best maybe 5-10% of creditors (a la Wakefield)- 4 point deduction
3 - Settle with none of creditors - 6 point deduction
All in line with existing precedent. I continue to maintain points deuctions are totally counterproductive, and absolutely ZERO deterrent to anyone else, since invariably it is the NEXT owner who suffers, not you. But precedent is set and has to be followed.
The big gap there is what happens if you settle with a more substantial part of the creditors? Especially HMRC? In that case, logically you would have a 2-point deduction. or maybe a sliding scale 1-3 points?
It seems to me that settleing with maybe £100k max of creditors (if that) can earn you 2 points. That MIGHT eb worth it for a new owner. But if shelling out many times that earns you NO extra points, the why the fekk do it? Instead, do just the bare minimum to earn those 2 points, and fekk the rest of the creditors. Spend all the dosh you saved on strengthening the team instead.
Surely that is not what the RFL, or anyone esle for that matter, want? Including the likes of Wakefield? It sure as hell makes no sense to me. So I cannot for the life of me understand those people who insist minimum 4-point penalty regardless of what creditors you attempt to settle with?
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| The RFL have already worked out the bottom of the table standings & London & Wakey are going down. You will get 4 points deduction but the officials are reffing the games to ensure Bradford are safe & Wakey go down. They are even paying Agar to stay to be doubly sure. Or so the Wakey fans believe.
I'm now on a final warning on their board as well for pointing out their hypocrisy.
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| Are you still banned from the Wigan board too? Naughty!
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| Quote Bullseye="Bullseye"Are you still banned from the Wigan board too? Naughty!'"
A ban on the Wigan board is for life, not just for Christmas.
A good friend of mine occasionally goes on to correct the error of their ways however...
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| I agree that a four point deduction is the likely sanction on the Bulls (as I predicted in post a few weeks ago).
The deduction of half the Sky money will also still apply for this second and final year I believe.
(That is because the RFL {whilst getting the indication from OK Bulls Ltd that such a proposal would be accepted after the previous Administration in return for remaining in Super League} imposed the sanction on the Bradford Bulls CLUB (not on either the new or old owners of the Club).
Extract from today's T&A article:-
" The Bulls’ punishment for entering administration could be announced by the Rugby Football League today.
The threat of a points deduction has been looming since OK Bulls Ltd, the club’s former holding company, was placed into administration on July 31.
The current board of directors met RFL officials at Red Hall yesterday as they seek ratification of Bradford Bulls 2014 Ltd being approved as the new owners.
It is understood they were told of the sanctions the club faces and a four-point penalty seems the most likely outcome.
Bradford Bulls 2014 had their bid for the club accepted by administrator David Wilson last Thursday and have spoken of their willingness to work with creditors. "
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| The disciplinary panel is also part of the great anti-Wakey conspiracy as demonstrated by citing Dean Collis.
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| Ok not has bad has a 6 point deduction but still a set back IMO
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| Quote jsb1990="jsb1990"Ok not has bad has a 6 point deduction but still a set back IMO'"
Agreed, but with the big win last weekend, if we follow that up with a win against London, and Wigan take out their disappointment on Wakey then come Sunday evening we'll still be ahead of both London and Wakey, which is where we need to be. All is not lost yet.
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| So we went to Admin on the 31st of July good old T&A spot on as ever.
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