And there we have the problem, most on here advocate that the Bulls have to be in super league as they need you and you would be too great a loss. What incentive is there now for all none SL clubs to build and vie for promotion, you don't want the Bulls to be in their position but are happy for them to be in it.



In the last 10 seasons before SL started Halifax were averaging an attendance that equalled Bradfords, if they replaced you what is to say they couldn't build on their support and in a few years be a big club again and valuable to super league

Having read the Bullbuilder interview with Blake Solly it seems to me that we are destined for league 1 or 2, whatever happens. If players are going to be released as soon as the deal is done then SL next season isn't going to be feasible. Similarly with coaching staff; without knowing where the club will be playing how are staff to be contracted.



I guess the only hope is that someone, or a group, comes forward very quickly now the boards have been swept clean. Maybe there really is someone who will commit under the new circumstances, but if SL is to continue in Bradford that division element will need sorting PDQ. The playing and coaching side is Ok but if it is allowed to drift away there is no point in us even thinking about SL next season.

No he would not.



By taking over now the RFL can guarentee that the Bulls will finish the 2012 season - no other available option atm can offer this with as much certainty.



SLE clubs do not want the Bulls in SL, that is why the RFL have consitently opposed the condition that the Bulls will be in SL in 2013/14.



If the RFL wanted the Bulls in SL they would not encourage all players to seek new contracts elsewhere with immediate effect. They know now that they do not intend the bulls to be in sl in 2013.

Yes, he would.





Well, yes, you are stating the obvious.







So you alone have the inside gen on the TRUE reason why the RFL would not accept the conditions! The RFL and the SLE clubs are all liars, the RFL was acting under duress of the clubs. Riiight. One of the dottier conspiracy theories, that one!





It is as I have said elsewhere the only thing they can do. The SLE clubs are not the long or even medium owner of the Bulls, only a new owner - if one ever comes forward and is accepted - could enter into any negotiations, sign or re-sign players or staff, and that much is obvious. So it isn't anything at all to do with not wanting (or wanting) the Bulls in SL, it is simply being fair to players whose livelihoods we are talking about. If they don't have any owner to talk to - what would YOU have them do?



The reality is that it is now very hard to see a way for a new owner to be in place in time to save the main part of the squad and be in a position to even ask the RFL the 2013 SL question, but that is just timing, it's where we are are nothing can be done about it.



Your RFL conspiracy theory is as dotty as it is unnecessary. More likely the truth is as was expressed yesterday by the RFL and Hetherington. Conspiracies not needed here.

can i just say when i started supporting my club (hull kr) in the eighties i watched us win everything and then in the 90s watched us slip into oblivion down to the old third division playing players from the amateur game in hull no money seeing us get beat 1-0 at home to barrow and then we rose again and although it was a long road back we got there so all im saying no matter what league you play in or what players play for you it will still be bradford and you will still be watching your team good luck

Just how exactly do you know this?



What IS quite likely and perhaps understandable, IMO is that there will be some sugar daddies who have poured milions of their own monies into their own clubs, who might take great exception to a rival club having its debts writen off and so - in their eyes - gaining an unfair advantage. I say this because that is exactly what Caisley said about London a few years ago - and he had put in only a tiny fraction of what the likes of Davy and McManus have done.



We also know that, from memory, Hudgell and McManus have called for a smaller competition. It therefore seems quite possible that they would prefer us (since the opportunity exists) to drop out of the competition to help bring that about, I suggest?



Whether there are club owners who do indeed hold such views, and whether if so they can carry a majority (or could otherwise get their way) is probably what matters?



I suspect, from everything I have seen reported, that the RFL would very much prefer Bradford to remain in SL. It seems too that we have friends amongst some of the clubs - the fantastic gestures of O'Connor and of Leeds and Wire must be testament to that, and I recall reading Lenaghan being supportive. But unless the debts are cleared to the satisfaction of the creditors, I fear the argument for the club remaining in SL will be hard to carry. And I cannot see the club surviving in anything like its present form in the lower leagues.

Quite right too! Bulls, both before, and in administation is Frankenstein's Monster and should be trimmed/killed to a sustainable business.



Any thoughts or intentions that Bulls should continue as they are, is bonkers.



They must get the balance of income/outgoings right and not chase unrealsitic dreams, which is what has caused this mess.

I am afraid that the unrealistic dream being chased was survival.

Chasing that unrealistic dream has CAUSED the fight for survival.



Mind you, if Bulls had cut their cloth accordingly, as they should have done, then I'm sure support, including commercial, would have been down anyway, resulting in the same outcome.



Perhaps chasing the dream was a last throw of the dice to balance the books.

As a Salford supporter, used to years of medocrity and now seeing our side being slowly disbanded as the better player seek greater certainty of employment due to our chairman insisting on some degree of decent financial management, I find it a bitter pill to swallow that Bradford are being bailed out when the debacle is entirely self inflicted.

It will be fascinating to see what unfolds in respect of Salford if the rumours around our precarious state prove to have any foundation - will SLE bail us out?

You miss my point.



Any club in the lower leagues would, in my view, have to leave Odsal and groundshare with someone. It would lose all its academy and youth development, and with it most of what gives us any hope for the future. The crowds would, I fear, soon reduce to levels more consistent with the rest of the competition. Without a sugar daddy, the best we could hope for would be to be to limp on from year to year. Is that an attractive proposition for anyone? For any external investor?



If we lose our SL place - and my own guess is that if we do not find an incoming investor prepared to buy the club and its debts pretty well as is (presumably via all being transferred to Newco so the current shareholders do not get one penny) then the most likely outcome is a one-way ticket to oblivion.

Go ask your chairman. He was one of those who unanimously voted for it.