I agree with Anita, just hope they seize the moment and act quickly and effectively to give us a fighting chance.

I'm also in this boat. Hoping there are some waiting in the wings that they haven't announced because they made that mistake with Phoenix and all it did was get people's hopes up for something that just isn't happening yet.



The only issue with it is that I was hoping those announcements would be due about 2 months ago when the visas were sorted. But every week we hear "the visas should be sorted soon" and then every week feck all happens.

You were moaning at the lack of signings, namely props.

I pointed out that we have just signed one only two weeks ago. From Hunslet. I'm not seeing many names of available props being mentioned on here. So no, obviously it is not ideal for us to be playing 18/19 year old kids every week, but I think it's pretty clear that there aren't that many available players out there right now.



You can read what you like into that quote from Beattie, but it certainly doesn't 'confirm' that he's frustrated and thinks we're p!ssing away our chances of staying up.

That simply isn't true - as another poster has already said, there are a number of ways that you can interpret Beattie's comments and it's more likely that he was sticking to his pay grade.

No, you can't read in what you like. Taken as a whole, the quote is crystal clear.



And, whether he's frustrated also isn't the point - though with respect, reading that, he plainly is - it is the glaring truth of what he said. And if despite what he said he doesn't think we're " p!ssing away our chances of staying up" then there's something wrong with him, because we are.



And btw, I don't buy into the "props don't exist" any more than I bought into "scrum halves don't exist". We got one within 10 seconds of a coach with contacts and knowledge arriving. It isn't up to random nutters on message boards to say who's available either. That is very often a "behind the scenes" thing that only insiders such as agents and close contacts know.



I would agree that we're hampered by the visa thing, but that makes life more difficult, not impossible.

Really? So, let me have your alternative fact interpretation of this quote:

How are we p!$$!ng away our chances? We're 3 wins off being safe with 19 games remaining.

I agree with that Anita, but the timing isn't open ended.



The 'kids' are being bashed about every week; the average (I know there are exceptions) 18, 19 or 20 year old forward isn't ready for constant, every week-end coming up against bigger, stronger, more experienced mature players. I'm speaking more for the pack members, though it applies, only marginally less, to other positions too. Some of these lads are good enough to eventually become top players but they need nurturing, encouraging and leading on, and not left fending for themselves, like they have been for the last couple of weeks. It's wrong on every level. Not only does it lead to possible disillusionment, the club owes a duty of care to these young people.

So first you broke the T&A article into three sections, commenting separately on each. Then when challenged about your interpretation of one of those quotes (in order to suit your own agenda), you throw a different quote back? Interesting debating technique.



For what it's worth, I agree wholeheartedly with Beattie when he says that kids can't compete with hardened Championship players. Anyone with a basic understanding of human physiology would say the same, regardless of any rugby league knowledge - to say or think otherwise would be ridiculous.



My comment was aimed at your belief that the owners are not communicating with Beattie. I don't believe (from the T&A quote) that you have proof of this.

From Shaw Cross

James hasn't played for Hunslet for some time.

Well, like against Halifax, for a start.







You think ending the season with +2 points is "safe"? What are you on? Even if it was, what margin for error are you using?



We must have different definitions of "safe".

Haha, my apologies. In some ways that only strengthens my argument in that it shows just how wide we are having to cast our net to find available players.