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| Quote hi de hi="hi de hi"EXACTLY. If a dog is born in a stable does that make it a horse?'"
What if you are born in this country with one English parent, or neither parent is English? What about those fleeing persecution in other countries who have made their homes here? What about those whose native country doesn't play RL & have settled here?
You would discount Olsi Krasniqi from Quins as he was born in ALbania? You would discount a shed load of black players who have excelled at English/GB RL as I would guess not all of their parents were English.?
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| Quote tigertot="tigertot"What if you are born in this country with one English parent, or neither parent is English? What about those fleeing persecution in other countries who have made their homes here? What about those whose native country doesn't play RL & have settled here?
You would discount Olsi Krasniqi from Quins as he was born in ALbania? You would discount a shed load of black players who have excelled at English/GB RL as I would guess not all of their parents were English.?'"
Please advise which of the above applies to chase?
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| Quote hi de hi="hi de hi"EXACTLY. If a dog is born in a stable does that make it a horse?'"
comparing apples and pears doesn't help.
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| Quote daveyz999="daveyz999"Please advise which of the above applies to chase?'"
It is irrelevant. The poster said the criteria for being picked for England is having English parents. I have asked a series of follow up questions which so far he & his jingoistic follower have not yet answered.
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| Quote tigertot="tigertot"It is irrelevant. The poster said the criteria for being picked for England is having English parents. I have asked a series of follow up questions which so far he & his jingoistic follower have not yet answered.'"
Okay, I do agree with some of your points, there should be exceptions for ' special' circumstances, but in this example, none of which apply.
Imo, the only reason players have got away with appearing for different countries was due to the international rugby board wanting a competitive world cup.
This then looked farcical when you have players like Brough swapping the country he wants to play for, depending on the upcoming tournament.
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| In my opinion you should only represent the country of your heritage ie people with English parentage play for England, end of story. You do not pick and choose and change your mind. This carry on makes a total mockery of the whole point of international sport. How can you have pride in your nation when it is not your nation?
If some one originates from a non RL playing nation then picking them just because there bus stopped here is hardly a valid reason.
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| Quote hi de hi="hi de hi"In my opinion you should only represent the country of your heritage ie people with English parentage play for England, end of story. You do not pick and choose and change your mind. This carry on makes a total mockery of the whole point of international sport. How can you have pride in your nation when it is not your nation?
If some one originates from a non RL playing nation then picking them just because there bus stopped here is hardly a valid reason.'"
So, should Olsi Krasniqi be eligible for England?
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| Quote tigertot="tigertot"So, should Olsi Krasniqi be eligible for England?'"
In my opinion no, because he is not English.
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| Quote hi de hi="hi de hi"In my opinion no, because he is not English.'"
Yes he is.
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| A worthy winner. I bet he's the sort of player that the rest of the competition don't enjoy playing against - he's tough, fast & skillful.
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| Quote tigertot="tigertot"Yes he is.'"
You say he was born in Albania, correct me if i am wrong but i assume of Albanain parents? If this is the case then he is Albanian.
I believe you are getting confused between being British ie a British passport holder, and being English which is a racial group. There is a difference between the two.
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| Hear that pop? Thats the sound of a can of worms being opened...
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