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| The problem with Marwan's position is that he did it after the salary capping saga. If he had done it prior to the salary cap investigation, he would have had an easier time convincing the world of RL that this wasn't just a knee-jerk reaction to him not getting his own way. Again. As it stands, I can't see how anybody should be supporting him, because although his reasons might be that of RFL incompetency, it comes across as spoilt brat syndrome, spitting his dummy out because he can't get his own way.
Furthermore, with the imminent departure of Blake Solly, he is effectively calling for a vote of no confidence in a regime that he has no clue about, unless I'm mistaken. Of course, I'm assuming here that a change of general manager will see some form of governance change. Even if it doesn't, we have no way of knowing what the RFL will do next season and beyond under new leadership, so how he can have a vote of no confidence is beyond me.
In summary - perhaps right to question the RFL, but definitely for the wrong reasons.
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| Quote daveyz999="daveyz999"I think he has a point, and I don't think the doctor would go public without the support he needs. (If he did, it would confirm he is
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He spends most of his Twitter life posting about how much he hates the RFL. As Roofaldo correctly points out, he just wants to be able to do what he wants when he wants, without some governing body telling him he's not allowed to. Any reasonable point his rantings raise are lost because everyone thinks he's mental and just wants his own way.
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| I don't think we, or anyone, should take the ad hominem approach in things like this: listen to what he says, if he's right back it, if not ignore. We really must check the message and ignore the messenger.
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| Quote DrFeelgood="DrFeelgood"The problem with Marwan's position is that he did it after the salary capping saga. If he had done it prior to the salary cap investigation, he would have had an easier time convincing the world of RL that this wasn't just a knee-jerk reaction to him not getting his own way. Again. As it stands, I can't see how anybody should be supporting him, because although his reasons might be that of RFL incompetency, it comes across as spoilt brat syndrome, spitting his dummy out because he can't get his own way.
Furthermore, with the imminent departure of Blake Solly, he is effectively calling for a vote of no confidence in a regime that he has no clue about, unless I'm mistaken. Of course, I'm assuming here that a change of general manager will see some form of governance change. Even if it doesn't, we have no way of knowing what the RFL will do next season and beyond under new leadership, so how he can have a vote of no confidence is beyond me.
In summary - perhaps right to question the RFL, but definitely for the wrong reasons.'"
That could be argued if he had done it before the salary cap saga it wouldn't have had the same effect. He's using the breach as an example of the RFL's failings under the current regime as in restricting the progression of the game, yet turning a blind eye to the likes of Catalans.
The ‘no confidence vote’ is a wake-up call to the RFL that the current system needs to change regardless of who is at the helm. The split being a very real possibility, if things don’t change.
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| From a selfish point of view, the split might help us back into SL
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| Quote daveyz999="daveyz999"From a selfish point of view, the split might help us back into SL'"
Which superleague though?
The 'official' a-little-bit- one, or the megalomanic Koukash one?
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| I'm finding it hard to look past this as anything other than Dr K spitting his dummy out because of the whole salary cap decision. He's clearly fed up of the RFL because he's not allowed to do what he wants, when he wants. I have to agree with Roofaldo that he doesn't seem to have any idea what to replace the RFL with, just that he wants rid.
I can't see him getting much support unless he can guarantee TV rights along the same sort of scale as what the RFL have with Sky at the moment. How many teams are reliant on that to keep going? Look what happened to us since we had it taken off us.
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| There is no point to all this.
The top soccer clubs had the world of big sponsors and broadcasters at their feet when forming the Premier League.
We have Sky (which btw already has the rights for years) and so even before you start, any "breakaway" is dead in the water as any club breaking away would rightly be fulsomely sued with no defence (as all clubs are parties to the deal)
Ignoring that - where would the money come from to finance a breakaway elite league? Pretty much all clubs are technically insolvent already (that is, they rely on loans and largesse to a significant amount).
If it wasn't for Sky, the game would be fscked already, at any rate, as a full-time "elite" sport. Who thinks Sky would be a party to any such shenanigans, other than protecting their own commercial interests, and which broadcaster would pay a huge amount of money to buy the rights to the new competition?
And that's just the very basics, before you even start to think about what sort of a body would run the new breakaway league. Presumably, it would be dedicated solely to the interests of that narrow little incestuous league. The RFL would remain as running the professional game overall. How would that relationship work?
The RFL has responsibilities for a huge range of issues within the sport, not just running a league. If the new organisation broke off, who would takeover all the responsibilities which the RFL discharges?
Marwan has totally lost the plot. It is one thing to have votes of no confidence, and seek change within RL, but a totally different and quite nutty thing to bluster drivel about breakaway leagues. Man's delusional.
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| Quote Ferocious Aardvark="Ferocious Aardvark".........
Marwan has totally lost the plot. It is one thing to have votes of no confidence, and seek change within RL, but a totally different and quite nutty thing to bluster drivel about breakaway leagues. Man's delusional.'"
I agree with Ferocious .... in particular his concluding paragraph quoted above. A breakaway league would IMO , be disastrous for the game.
The calibre of administration over the past few years has been mediocre at best. I do not think many fans would rush to the defence of Nigel Wood or the current Chairman if a vote of no confidence was proposed by the clubs.
Personally I would welcome such a vote with an open debate and publication of the result.
The biggest success during Big Nigel's tenure was the last World Cup - in terms of administration not results. And the biggest reason for that success was the female executive ( sorry I cannot recall her name)who was the organising force behind it. All the signs were that she wanted to continue involvement with the game.
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| Quote daveyz999="daveyz999"From a selfish point of view, the split might help us back into SL'"
How?
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| Quote Bullnorthern="Bullnorthern"I agree with Ferocious .... in particular his concluding paragraph quoted above. A breakaway league would IMO , be disastrous for the game.
The calibre of administration over the past few years has been mediocre at best. I do not think many fans would rush to the defence of Nigel Wood or the current Chairman if a vote of no confidence was proposed by the clubs.
Personally I would welcome such a vote with an open debate and publication of the result.
The biggest success during Big Nigel's tenure was the last World Cup - in terms of administration not results. And the biggest reason for that success was the female executive ( sorry I cannot recall her name)who was the organising force behind it. All the signs were that she wanted to continue involvement with the game.'"
You mean Sally Bolton. Very talented executive, was appointed MD for the 2017 World Athletic Championships but resigned a couple of months ago. She seems to specialize in the organisation of major events rather than the ongoing management of a sport, nevertheless I'm sure she would bring a great deal more to the role than Wood ever has.
Sadly I suspect Rugby League may not be big enough to attract her back, but you never know.
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| Quote rugbyreddog="rugbyreddog"How?'"
If I reword to say the 'Top Tier' instead of 'Super League'.
If there is serious interest in the clubs breaking away and creating a new league, it would make sense to "invite" a club with huge tradition and following to play in the new league. The whole middle 8 games would (hopefully) be abolished, meaning there is a case to have a larger top league. Could also be good news for Leigh, who would welcome the idea of having a higher salary cap limit.
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