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| Quote bewareshadows="bewareshadows"Depends on the lease????
Does the lease have a covenant that requires a sporting club to be there, or could the RFL lease it out the land to a nice new shiny Tescos????
Just a thought, I know the RFL are a sporting body, but it does not mean they could not gain rent by other means so long as it was permitted???'"
The council still own the land and the development rights to it
The RFL now own the head lease to lease a stadium at "peppercorn" rent levels
They have been sub leasing it to Bulls at a more "commercial" rate
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| but does that mean they can't change the use of the land if say the bulls decide to go to valley parade??
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| Not without the council's approval.
Assuming that the head lease has just been taken over by RFL without any changes - because when we had the lease those were the terms we had
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| Quote Highlander="Highlander"Not without the council's approval.
Assuming that the head lease has just been taken over by RFL without any changes - because when we had the lease those were the terms we had'"
I would be surprised if the council would make any strong objections if it could turn a profit on any new developments
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| Oh yes. As long as the council got a good share, they wouldn't object. Tesco (and all supermarkets) though at Odsal have been & gone.
Logistics/warehousing though...
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| National Planning Policy is now in favour of 'sustainable development'. Ignoring the laughable abuse of that term, if there was some business venture that stacked up financially the odds on it getting planning at Odsal would be high, almost certain on appeal.
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| Everyone is going on about how much the bulls owe. What income is likely if someone takes over? Have we had all our Super League money upfront?. I take it season tickets are now voided if a new company is created, raised turnstile prices?. What other income is likely, new sponsors? Sell players? another pledge?
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| Quote tigertot="tigertot"National Planning Policy is now in favour of 'sustainable development'. Ignoring the laughable abuse of that term, if there was some business venture that stacked up financially the odds on it getting planning at Odsal would be high, almost certain on appeal.'"
True except to develop a site it still needs the owners approval, which in this case is the council, so they would not be blocking any development as a council, but as owners.
It was just a thought given that allegedly Caisley was after renegotiating the Bulls lease, after the Bulls got £1.2m off the RFL, which the RFL took the Stadium lease for repayment. Then people are saying the lease is worthless without the Bulls. I was not so sure. Warehousing could be a good call, you could get a lot of warehousing on the site and lots of volume.
Especially given it's prime location to the motorway.
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| The thing is, there is no income to speak of, there is no sponsor within a 7 day camel ride, and there would be no point, at all, in even thinking about starting newco if your business model was begging money off the fans every month!
If season tickets were dishonoured then thousands would not pay so gate income (even ignoring the inevitable departure of the best players) would be way down.
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| You'd have to fill it in to build anything on it. Not sure how easy/difficult that would be. The land next to it has already been sold too IIRC (the land behind the main stand). The land behind the Coral Stand needs decontaminating too.
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| Quote MicktheGled="MicktheGled"Increasing the cost of season tickets.'"
Your current season tickets may not be honoured due to admin i know AG did it when he didnt have to. Its a fan alienator but there would be no obligation if a new owner comes in.
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| Quote MicktheGled="MicktheGled"Increasing the cost of season tickets.'" Thanks for answering Mick, just too busy this pm to even look at the site. And, with tongue in cheek, a pledge is the other, too obvious, one. These have to be seriously looked at to ensure the newco/whatever long term viability, any business trading successfully would not have to do hang on to tax,
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