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It's no surprise that the game in this country is being run by a lawyer and an accountant. Most of the ideas pushed forward in their tenure including from hiring an auditing company kpmg to consult on the future of the british game to the new 3x8 p and r system and bringing back the Lions Tour smacks of pencil pushers running the game with no vision, creativity or common sense.Can't believe the clubs weren't consulted on something as significant as this.
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It's no surprise that the game in this country is being run by a lawyer and an accountant. Most of the ideas pushed forward in their tenure including from hiring an auditing company kpmg to consult on the future of the british game to the new 3x8 p and r system and bringing back the Lions Tour smacks of pencil pushers running the game with no vision, creativity or common sense.Can't believe the clubs weren't consulted on something as significant as this.
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| I get the distinct impression that mr lenaghan would of liked to apply for the job himself.
But of course, having the chairman of one team running the competition wouldn't of been amateurish at all...
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| Anyone else sick to death of Pollard sulking? I'd love to find the audio interview from the end of 2012 saying we should all stop criticising the RFL, or words to that extent.
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| Quote Magic Superbeetle="Magic Superbeetle"I get the distinct impression that mr lenaghan would of liked to apply for the job himself.
But of course, having the chairman of one team running the competition wouldn't of been amateurish at all...'"
You do realize you have made an assumption on Lenegan's intentions based on nothing but the jumble in your head.
Then you claim that his "intentions" are amateurish. Even though you have just made them up from the jumble in your own head?
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| Seems crazy that the clubs weren't consulted,
Then again, is the clubs were consulted there is a chance Mr Woods power base is somewhat eroded
Leneghan should have been a little more circumspect in his dismissal of Blake Solly's skills though, seems a bit unnecessarily personal
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| Quote tugglesf78="tugglesf78"You do realize you have made an assumption on Lenegan's intentions based on nothing but the jumble in your head.
Then you claim that his "intentions" are amateurish. Even though you have just made them up from the jumble in your own head?
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He complains about not having an application process, it seems a fairly logical step to assume therefore he'd want to use said application process. Not seeing how that's jumbled. But okay if you say so. He complains the process has been amateurish, yet, if he were to of used said application process and a chairman from one of the clubs ran the sport, it would be like days of yore (you know, amateurish) or were we as a sport ran by first class individuals in the days of Maurice?
Now of course, if he had, say, tried to lead a breakaway from the rfl with other chairman for himself and others to run over the offseason it would lend credence to the assumption he might of wanted such a job (and thus use the aforementioned application process) ... Oh wait.
Or, it's a personal vendetta against Blake Solly, but that's a whole other "jumbled" trail of thought.
Or we should just run the sport like he says, ignoring what the other chairmen have voted in, like the 3x8 structure, and bow to his superior knowledge on how to run the sport (hint, this would be hinted to in that little outburst) - but that would really just be doing what I said previously, without giving him the title of it
I'm tired of chairmen "hitting out" at the rfl when they don't get their own way. They can't seem to accept majority rule.
Ps, Blake Solly got a promotion, not all promotions are advertised 
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| Oh dear,lenaghan's coming into season again.
My dog's the same when she's coming into season
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| Quote Magic Superbeetle="Magic Superbeetle"He complains about not having an application process, it seems a fairly logical step to assume therefore he'd want to use said application process. Not seeing how that's jumbled. But okay if you say so. He complains the process has been amateurish, yet, if he were to of used said application process and a chairman from one of the clubs ran the sport, it would be like days of yore (you know, amateurish) or were we as a sport ran by first class individuals in the days of Maurice?
Now of course, if he had, say, tried to lead a breakaway from the rfl with other chairman for himself and others to run over the offseason it would lend credence to the assumption he might of wanted such a job (and thus use the aforementioned application process) ... Oh wait.
Or, it's a personal vendetta against Blake Solly, but that's a whole other "jumbled" trail of thought.
Or we should just run the sport like he says, ignoring what the other chairmen have voted in, like the 3x8 structure, and bow to his superior knowledge on how to run the sport (hint, this would be hinted to in that little outburst) - but that would really just be doing what I said previously, without giving him the title of it
I'm tired of chairmen "hitting out" at the rfl when they don't get their own way. They can't seem to accept majority rule.
Ps, Blake Solly got a promotion, not all promotions are advertised
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Blake Solly did not get a promotion, Blake Solly was director of licensing and standards for the RFL, he didn't even work for SL(E) ltd as he does now.
It's a hell of a leap of logic to decide that Ian Leneghan wanting a say in the selecting of the successful candidate is because he wants to be the candidate, there is a possibility he wanted a say in the appointment because he well..... Wanted a say in the appointment.
There are two ways of looking at it, SL chairmen 'hitting out' against the RFL, or the RFL being incapable of building any sort of consensus. You can call yourself a leader but if you can't get people to come with you willingly, you aren't much of one.
Who knows if Blake Solly was the best man for the job, the way the RFL have gone about it however has simply made a rod for his back and made him 'the man the clubs never wanted in the first place'
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| Quote Magic Superbeetle="Magic Superbeetle"He complains about not having an application process, it seems a fairly logical step to assume therefore he'd want to use said application process. Not seeing how that's jumbled. But okay if you say so. He complains the process has been amateurish, yet, if he were to of used said application process and a chairman from one of the clubs ran the sport, it would be like days of yore (you know, amateurish) or were we as a sport ran by first class individuals in the days of Maurice?
Now of course, if he had, say, tried to lead a breakaway from the rfl with other chairman for himself and others to run over the offseason it would lend credence to the assumption he might of wanted such a job (and thus use the aforementioned application process) ... Oh wait.
Or, it's a personal vendetta against Blake Solly, but that's a whole other "jumbled" trail of thought.
Or we should just run the sport like he says, ignoring what the other chairmen have voted in, like the 3x8 structure, and bow to his superior knowledge on how to run the sport (hint, this would be hinted to in that little outburst) - but that would really just be doing what I said previously, without giving him the title of it
I'm tired of chairmen "hitting out" at the rfl when they don't get their own way. They can't seem to accept majority rule.
Ps, Blake Solly got a promotion, not all promotions are advertised
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Sounds more like a 'create a job scheme' to get another body in place at the SL table to me.
Also Solly states “I want to thank the Super League clubs for supporting the appointment, and look forward to working closely with them to ensure the continued growth of their competition.” Which begs the question, which clubs were they then Blake?
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| When Ian Lenagan speaks, people should listen.
Rugby league is a business. Ian Lenagan is an accomplished businessman, which Nigel Wood and Blake Solly are not. Ian Lenagan is also a talented playwrite, which needless to say nobody involved in running the game is. But it is Lenagan's talents as a businessman, and his obvious high intelligence, which make his opinions worth taking seriously.
It is obvious that the provincial accountant Woods is running the RFL as his own personal fiefdom, and making wild and often reactionary changes to the operation of the game in Britain without consulting the key stakeholders. The restoration of promotion and relegation -- a system that has been tried and failed before in England, and is not used in the most successful rugby league competition in the world, the NRL -- was the key element in all the reforms that were considered last year. Nobody was given the choice to vote on retaining licencing. While it was obvious that the number of Super League teams had to be reduced from 14 to either 12 or 10, it was not obvious that licensing had to be abandoned. But Wood and his cronies decided on their own that it would be abandoned. It leaves no guarantee that rugby league will be able to expand, or even that it will not retreat completely back to the M 62 corridor. This foolishness is typical of the autocratic style of Wood, and reflects his personal intellectual limitations.
Ian Lenagan is a man who loves his club and loves the game of rugby league. He is a renaissance man and a man of vision who wants to see rugby league grow throughout Britain and Europe. Nigel Wood appears not to care about expansion at all. He does care to appoints his cronies to key positions without consulting key stakeholders in the game.
Meanwhile people on this forum should try spelling Ian Lenagan's name correctly before they start questioning his motives.
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| As we've discussed before, perhaps if Lenagan made a better effort of making his own club a viable commercial concern we would be interested in hearing or implementing some of his thoughts for the wider game.
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| Quote MjM="MjM"As we've discussed before, perhaps if Lenagan made a better effort of making his own club a viable commercial concern we would be interested in hearing or implementing some of his thoughts for the wider game.'"
What are his specific failings in that respect?
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