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| Quote The Avenger="The Avenger"Alternative line up
Widdop
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McGillivery
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Gale
Graham
McIllorum
G Burgess
Whitehead
S Burgess
O'Loughlin
Clarke
McMeekin
Hill
Watts'"
Some diabolical spelling on offer.
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| Currie is injured again as well.
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| Quote Wigg'n="Wigg'n"Currie is injured again as well.'"
So if you really think going with a second-rower at centre is a good idea, you might as well go with Bateman, who's played there before at international level (and done OK). But I'd have Shenton at centre for sure.
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| Quote Logger="Logger"Eden is suspect defensively, so Hall gets it because of the way international RL is played.'"
Hall has missed 20 tackles compared to Eden's 9.
This idea that Hall's kick returns are better is also a fallacy. Hall may be stronger in contact, but Eden's pace gets him further forward before contact.
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| Quote Towns88="Towns88"Some diabolical spelling on offer.'"
Indeed. Completely mis-spelt Hardaker, Eden and Shenton.
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| If Morgan Escare had not been injured he would have still been the Wigan full back and Samuel Tomkins.would have been sitting on the sideline, or injected into the team as a backup in the halves. Given the fact that he is now inferior to the French custodian, Samuel Tomkins should not be considered for the England team.
Zachary Hardaker is the sensible choice for full back with Gareth Widdop partnering either Lucas Gale or George Williams in the halves.
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| Quote moto748="moto748"So if you really think going with a second-rower at centre is a good idea, you might as well go with Bateman, who's played there before at international level (and done OK). But I'd have Shenton at centre for sure.'"
Our 2nd centre is a bit of a weakness. How has Leroy Cudjoe been playing this year? I've hardly seen him play this year but always thought he's alright, plus he plays alongside McGilvary at club level.
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| Quote Wigg'n="Wigg'n"Currie is injured again as well.'"
Not according to Currie..
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| It has to be Hardaker.
Hall. I like Eden, he's lively enough, but he is at risk of being man handled by the better teams. Hall, while he is just steady, is the better left winger for international rugby.
Percival. Left centre is hotly contested, Shenton is great, but Percival is the longer term prospect while being top class at the moment. Gildart looks to have potential too.
Right centre will be Watkins.
Right wing, for similar reasons to Hall, will by McGilvary
Widdop is going well in the NRL so is a shoe in.
Gale has been top draw, so I expect him to start 7.
Graham. NRL pulls rank with Bennett.
Hodgson. Ditto
Sam Burgess. Playing well in a poor team, world class, has to start.
Whitehead. Doing ok in the NRL, think Bennett will favour him
Bateman. Tough as white dog sh.t, dangerous ball runner and defends well.
O'Loughlin. Still got it, and captain so has to start.
Hill. Think he will stick with Hill despite indifferent form.
Heighington. Doing enough for Cronulla, could retain his spot.
T. Burgess. Sheer size and power will get him in the frame, not that I think he's better than Taylor or Walmsley.
Currie. Unlucky to miss out last year, if he proves his fitness he could take the bench spot as a bit of a utility.
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| Quote nottinghamtiger="nottinghamtiger"Hall has missed 20 tackles compared to Eden's 9.
This idea that Hall's kick returns are better is also a fallacy. Hall may be stronger in contact, but Eden's pace gets him further forward before contact.'"
Just to add detail, Hall has played a couple of games at centre and also himself has had about 6 different centre partners this season. Hardly helpful.
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| Quote Smith's Brolly="Smith's Brolly"Not according to Currie..'"
Fair dos. Great news if he's fit for the WC then, would walk into my England 17.
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| Quote Wigg'n="Wigg'n"Fair dos. Great news if he's fit for the WC then, would walk into my England 17.'"
Not for me if enough other 2nd rowers are fit. If Warrington had made it into the Top 8 maybe but 2 sub appearances and then Middle 8's opposition isn't the preparation someone who has yet to play international RL needs.
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