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| Quote wrencat1873="wrencat1873"Agree about the Stobart deal.
Certainly Stobart did better out of the deal than the game of RL.
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How much additional business did Stobart get? |
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| Quote gutterfax="gutterfax"Foxy Bingo, Brut and Heinz Big Soup are PARTNERS with little if any money changing hands.......they are fillers.
Tetley and the Cider that isn't a Cider are the 2 Paying sponsors from this year so far.....the RFL annual accounts for 2012-13 will make interesting reading under the "sponsorship" column.
Engage were worth 1.7m a year.....do you believe that the RFL are getting anything like that now?'"
Partners is just a fancy word to 'big up' a sponsorship and make it sound somehow more important or perhaps, they feel it's more likely to give the impression that it's not just a sordid financial deal, but that we have a deeper, more altruistic engagement with our 'partners' than with a mere sponsor.....as if! |
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| Quote Bulliac="Bulliac"Partners is just a fancy word to 'big up' a sponsorship and make it sound somehow more important or perhaps, they feel it's more likely to give the impression that it's not just a sordid financial deal, but that we have a deeper, more altruistic engagement with our 'partners' than with a mere sponsor.....as if!'"
Thing is, don't partners usually offer freebies to the companies involved? The whole "official supplier" sort of deal? |
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| Quote Richie="Richie"How much additional business did Stobart get?'"
I don't know how much business they got, but they got plenty of coverage on TV, radio etc.
Certainly more exposure to TV and radio listeners, than people who may have been lucky enough to see an elusive Stobart lorry AND grasped that it was promoting Super League and then actually bothered to do anything about it. |
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| Quote wrencat1873="wrencat1873"I don't know how much business they got, but they got plenty of coverage on TV, radio etc.
Certainly more exposure to TV and radio listeners, than people who may have been lucky enough to see an elusive Stobart lorry AND grasped that it was promoting Super League and then actually bothered to do anything about it.'"
And what was that worth to Stobart? |
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| Partnership = Little if any money changes hands....various "contra" deals and "CPA" arrangements.
Sponsorship = someone has paid for the right to be associated with.
If anyone thinks Foxy,Brut or Heinz have paid up front they need their heads looking at.  |
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| Quote Richie="Richie"And what was that worth to Stobart?'"
I was a deal that had the dubious distinction of being practically worthless to all involved. I imagine the lawyer who drew up the contract is the only one who made a profit from it. One of the most ridiculous deals ever seen. Apparently the final decision wasn't even the RFL's fault ( though of course had they had the skill, marketing expertise and general charm to find a better sponsorship deal in the first place it would never have been considered) - the mind boggles at who on earth thought it had any value whatsoever. |
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| Quote a.n Other="a.n Other"Clubs have announced that if people sign up to Fox bingo and quote their club in the promotions box, the club will get £50.
This could be the deal or at least the main part of it- similar to how the Championship received any money from Premier sports last year.'"
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| Quote gutterfax="gutterfax"Partnership = Little if any money changes hands....various "contra" deals and "CPA" arrangements.
Sponsorship = someone has paid for the right to be associated with.
If anyone thinks Foxy,Brut or Heinz have paid up front they need their heads looking at.
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Are you suggesting that the more beans that are eaten in Wigan will mean the RL club will get more money? 
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Whilst that may be true in some cases it isn't in all. Man Utd for example have loads of companies listed on their Official Sponsors web page and most of them are described as partners despite at least some of them paying out decent money.
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| Quote The Devil's Advocate="The Devil's Advocate"Based on the V.T attendance rhetoric, I’d give the Samaritans a call.'"
Calls to the Samaritans are allegedly up by over 12% compared to last year, so yes... we need them more than they need us. |
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| Quote William Eve="William Eve"Calls to the Samaritans are allegedly up by over 12% compared to last year, so yes... we need them more than they need us.'"
Well we certainly need them more than we need you!! |
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