To me you need an overhaul and have done for a while. You can't build a team around mental midgets like Westerman, Sneyd and Pryce and expect to compete over a season. Add in a big, strong, lazy set of props and a weak bench, and a 12 year old as a coach and it's recipe for complete mediocrity.

Why wasn't any of this match officials fault?



It's usually the default reason.

most of us has to endure the 80s and 90s before we experienced the high of the last decade, Leeds fans have more than paid their dues. Its a club built on the academy instead of imported success (with a few quality imports added in)

I think Hull's problem is that they've never really even tried to build a team. They've just signed players each season and hoped they'd do ok rather than investing in and building a team for the long term. Personally I think the biggest mistake they made was not to build a team around Richard Horne as captain 10+ years ago. He could've been Hull's Sinfield/O'Loughlin/Wellens/Briers

Don’t talk to me about endurance, I’ve had forty odd years of it, with a highlight of a C.C final on my Rugby League C.V.



Paid your dues, I’m practically bankrupt

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I'd love to see how many missed tackles there were in that half.



The flapping of hands at tackles (when they got anywhere near the players because the gaps were so huge) was embarrassing. The gaps were idiotic. No attempt to wrap the ball. Leeds to abliterated us. It was like watching the Huddersfield play off game again.



Just how do you correct that?

Westerman didn’t miss, was it put on report, because it looked to have more malice than say, the Ah Van incident

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Maybe Hull players should spit their dummy at refs over knocks on they have 'seen' more often....

I agree there hasn't been a plan to build a team for a long long time. We are still reeling from Cooke walking out on us in 2007 and never replacing him properly!



that said to build a team you first need a competent coach, and we haven't actually had a proven head coach since McRae joined us via the Gateshead merger in 2000, since then we've only had assistants (Kear, Sharp, Agar, Gentle and now Radford)

Radford in.

Hasn't this been obvious for years though? People laughed when I tipped Hull to finish 3rd from bottom last year, to their credit they managed to prove me wrong by finishing 4th from bottom but the squad as a whole is barely SL standard.



Not sure why Radford was complaining about a short turnaround either, Saturday-Thursday is no different to Sunday-Friday which is something all clubs go through multiple times in a season. Also they'd just had two weeks off prior to the last game.

Yeah losing Cooke was a blow.



To be honest I think you've lacked a top CEO who can look longer term and participate in the signings of players. Because, ideally, your players will be there longer than your coach.



I have no in-depth knowledge of how things operate at Hull, it's just how it appears to me from the outside, but I sort of view Hull FC as a smaller version of the RFL/RL as a whole - just about recovered from a disaster, made some progress, decent potential, but a bit adrift and rudderless with little/no long term thinking or planning.