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| Quote Superted="Superted"I think we should all just agree what a great and upstanding citizen Smokey is, accept that anyone who dares to have a conversation about something he doesn't agree with is a discriminatory Luddite and lock the thread - there's no point continuing the discussion.'"
It's not just me who doesn't agree with you. Just like it wasn't just me the first time you made this allegation. Just like it wasn't me the 2nd time you made this allegation. Just like it wasn't just me when in response to Hardaker being charged with actual homophobic abuse you called everyone fags and told them to go watch the antiques roadshow.
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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"icon_lol.gif You were absolutely desperate to be called homophobic just so we could see this faux-indignation. Pathetic cry-bully tactics.
It's also hilarious to see your hypocrisy in trying to stand as a bulwark against insulting people who disagree with you.'"
Not at all. What I wanted was for you to stop beating around the bush with phrases like "tell on yourself" so that you'd show your true colours.
Which you well and truly did when you called me a gay hater.
You're a pathetic human being.
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| Quote loiner81="loiner81"calling people homophobic.'" Someone tried to link a person's sexuality to something that has nothing to do with sexuality. That is homophobic. Homophobia doesn't mean you 'hate' gay people, it means you view them differently. Same with any other type of phobia or prejudice. If you see a black guy walking down the street and grab your wallet that's racism, you don't have to 'hate' the guy or want bad things to happen to him for it to be racist.
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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"No I would expect the RFL to investigate. I wouldn't expect Child to be 'knocked' for making the allegation and I think he is allowed to make the allegation. These are the things you seemed to infer you wouldn t want..'"
No I didn't say or infer I wouldn't want them, I just pointed out how I expect the poster who asked the question would react when he tried to say it'd be ridicilous, which suggests he'd dismiss Child's claim as similarly he's dismissed the positive discrimination idea.
Try taking 2 minutes to read people's posts properly instead of jumping in head first in urgent desperation to criticise them.
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| Quote headhunter="headhunter"Someone tried to link a person's sexuality to something that has nothing to do with sexuality. That is homophobic. Homophobia doesn't mean you 'hate' gay people, it means you view them differently. Same with any other type of phobia or prejudice. If you see a black guy walking down the street and grab your wallet that's racism, you don't have to 'hate' the guy or want bad things to happen to him for it to be racist.'"
Thanks for the info.
Not sure what it's got to do with Smokey calling me homophobic and a gay hater, though.
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| Quote loiner81="loiner81"Thanks for the info.
Not sure what it's got to do with Smokey calling me homophobic and a gay hater, though.'" I'm not too interested in your argument with Smokey, it has to do with the fact that you seem to have taken objection to a homophobic person being rightly called homophobic.
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| Quote PrinterThe="PrinterThe"No I didn't say or infer I wouldn't want them, I just pointed out how I expect the poster who asked the question would react when he tried to say it'd be ridicilous, which suggests he'd dismiss Child's claim as similarly he's dismissed the positive discrimination idea.
Try taking 2 minutes to read people's posts properly instead of jumping in head first in urgent desperation to criticise them.'"
No what you said was
If he made that claim, I'm pretty certain the same ones on here attacking the positive discrimination suggestions and the people who've said it.....would be the first people to attack the RFL demanding an investigation and that there's no place for negative discrimination. They wouldn't dare for a second try knocking Child saying he couldn't make that claim
Now I get that this is how you think others would react to that situatuon. I even agreed I would want an investigation I wouldn t knock him or say he couldn't make that claim. My question remains what would your reaction be to that situation the same as mine and you expect others, or different?
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| Quote headhunter="headhunter"I'm not too interested in your personal argument, it has to do with the fact that you seem to have taken objection to a homophobic person being rightly called homophobic.'"
Well if you're not interested in someone's argument then don't go posting patronising comments on it.
Cheers.
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| Quote loiner81="loiner81"Well if you're not interested in someone's argument then don't go posting patronising comments on it.
Cheers.'"
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| Quote loiner81="loiner81"Well if you're not interested in someone's argument then don't go posting patronising comments on it.
Cheers.'" Yeah, unfortunately this is a public forum and people are free to comment in any thread they wish.
Not sure why you think it was patronising BTW, if you already know and understand the things I said then why are you maintaining the same viewpoint and continuing to attack someone for correctly pointing out homophobia?
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| Quote loiner81="loiner81"Not at all. What I wanted was for you to stop beating around the bush with phrases like "tell on yourself" so that you'd show your true colours.
Which you well and truly did when you called me a gay hater.
You're a pathetic human being.'"
Still trying that hoping it will get some traction aren't you.  cry-bully and not even a very good one.
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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"No what you said was
If he made that claim, I'm pretty certain the same ones on here attacking the positive discrimination suggestions and the people who've said it.....would be the first people to attack the RFL demanding an investigation and that there's no place for negative discrimination. They wouldn't dare for a second try knocking Child saying he couldn't make that claim
Now I get that this is how you think others would react to that situatuon. I even agreed I would want an investigation I wouldn t knock him or say he couldn't make that claim. My question remains what would your reaction be to that situation the same as mine and you expect others, or different?'"
I'd be asking the similar questions as I'm asking now when I think positive discrimination could be possible. Is this a possibility? and yes it should be looked into further.
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