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| Oh come on, Puletua executed a forearm smash not a shoulder charge (dons tin hat)
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| Quote Saddened!="Saddened!" The likes of SBW, Burgess and Morley have made careers out of this style of tackling.'"
And tbh, they usually spend their off-season having shoulder surgery. It's not just dangerous for the ones getting hit
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| jason hooper made a career out of doing nothing but shoulder charging kickers, he ended up retiring having fooked his shoulder up so bad.
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| People saying it was consistent with the Moa incident are correct that it was consistent, but it was the wrong decision.
Both shoulder charges were powerful hits, that jolted back the attacker in such a way that then propelled their head in to the defender, so this is where the ref says contact with the head, your off, which is utterly stupid!
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| I used to be a big fan of the "big hit" shoulder charge since I've seen it for many years. I even defended Moa earlier this season. However, my view has changed and I can see it being firmly outlawed going forward.
In March this year I read a newspaper article whilst in Australia which basically was full of interviews with various NRL medics and they collectively warned of the dangers of the shoulder charge. There were numerous stories of significant injuries and due to the technique being different from a normal tackle, the risk of serious injury is higher. Unfortunately I read the article whilst on an internal Qantas flight so cannot reproduce the article to share.
As a neutral watching Friday's match, all the replays indicated to me a clear contact with the head. (I don't care what any Saints fan says on here or otherwise). The tackle/charge looked awful and the decision probably the correct one. Now as for that disallowed Catalan try at the end..................
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| Quote RL13="RL13"I don't like 'em. All they do is provide crappy footage for "Big Hits" compilations on youtube. Rugby is about tackling - not being a coward and running in with the shoulder.'"
I agree.
The shoulder charge is horribly bordering on dangerous and reckless. It's one for the crowds though!
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| Quote wildshot="wildshot"
As a neutral watching Friday's match, all the replays indicated to me a clear contact with the head. (I don't care what any Saints fan says on here or otherwise). The tackle/charge looked awful and the decision probably the correct one. Now as for that disallowed Catalan try at the end..................'"
You must have watched a different game to me, he did not hit the guys head with his shoulder on initial contact.
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| To me, Puletua's was a great hit and to be sent off for it was absolutely ridiculous. Inglis wasnt really a shoulder charge, closer to an elbow and to me this is more of a red card. It seems like the in thing to pick up on shoulder charges, but for ones like Puletua's its stupid, they are a part of the game
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| Quote wildshot="wildshot"......As a neutral watching Friday's match, all the replays indicated to me a clear contact with the head. (I don't care what any Saints fan says on here or otherwise). The tackle/charge looked awful and the decision probably the correct one......'"
Agreed - I thought the red card justified.
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15 Misconduct
(b) when effecting or attempting to effect a tackle makes contact with the head or neck of an opponent intentionally, recklessly or carelessly.
It's not a tackle. It should be banned. It's in the rules ^.
IMO a crude way of trying to be the 'big man' and incapacitating an opponent.
www.therfl.co.uk/a_guide_to_the_ ... misconduct
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15 Misconduct
(b) when effecting or attempting to effect a tackle makes contact with the head or neck of an opponent intentionally, recklessly or carelessly.
It's not a tackle. It should be banned. It's in the rules ^.
IMO a crude way of trying to be the 'big man' and incapacitating an opponent.
www.therfl.co.uk/a_guide_to_the_ ... misconduct
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| IT IS FUCKING BANNED! The same as any other "type" of tackle that contacts the head. Why are people talking about banning a certain type of tackle even when it does NOT contact the head?
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| Quote bren2k="bren2k"I would have thought that it's entirely possible to lose consciousness if the head is whipped back due to an impact with the body?
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So we're agreed, a person cannot be knocked out unless the head is attacked/hit?
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