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| It's a personal problem.
Nothing to do with rugby or Wigan. Can't see why people think it's their business.
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| Quote Call Me God="Call Me God"Gutterfax received a lifetime ban for calling Chris Dalton a w@nk3r in jest........this tool gloated at the time and Chris no longer posts here, nor does the moderator who pulled the trigger......in fact, most decent posters have long since gone. The reality is that the site is now an "also ran" in terms of relevant RL conversations, because after the PC brigade banned some posters, it spiraled into irrelevance with an Australian pretending to be a Frenchman pulling all the traffic the site now has.....without Jean and his ridiculous posturing, there'd be little point in this place at all......the sites owners have reaped their reward for being overly protective......it's a sad indictment when total fascist RL .com is now more "on the pulse" than this site......but that's what you get for stepping into the realms of trying to dictate what people should say rather than allowing free speech.
Jean (or barry or whatever) is the only reason this site has traffic.....that's why they put up with him. The site owners are basically trolling us.....and we are playing along
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Spot on! 
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| Quote Him="Him"Don’t be deliberately daft. It was a thinly veiled, holier than thou snipe at Cas and Leeds.
If you don’t think that then I guess you’ll also think that Bateman’s coming back to Wigan, the salary cap breach was and admin error and Shaun Edwards has a contract with Wigan.'"
Thinly veiled? Don't make me laugh! When has Lenagan ever been even remotely veiled when criticising other teams or organisations? You must be referring to the thinly veiled 'Yorkshire Mafia' comment or his thinly veiled 'the TV deal should never have been signed' or the many thinly veiled comments about the competence of the RFL.
Hardaker had been with the club over 6 months by this time, and the 'should have been addressed before now' equally applied to Wigan. Whilst it could (and should) have related to his previous clubs too, you're seeing what you want to here. I guess you're the sort of poster who would only be satisfied should Wigan take all the responsibility for any failings whether they took place during his time there or not.
I'll tell you what; let's all pretend Wigan are responsible for Bailey bottling someone, Ferris sleeping with his best mate's wife or Zak beating up a student, casting homophobic slurs or being found with cocaine in his system in Grand Final week. God forbid any other club should be culpable. 
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| Quote Clearwing="Clearwing"Hypocritical? Perhaps. But a drinking culture seems endemic to the game still. Unless that is addressed, I suspect we'll continue to see drunk driving, boorish and thuggish behaviour and the usual multitude of other misdeeds make the back pages and detract from the lives of others.'"
I'm extremely fit late 50's, with a very careful diet. But I like a beer (maybe 20 units a week*). Last year I developed a stomach problem which initially was thought to be alcohol related. I had to stop alcohol for 3 or 4 months; fortunately it was found not to be the cause. But you need something like that to jolt you out of the pretence that alcohol is not a huge problem to yourself & society. I still love a drink but the times I would sneak one in for no reason other than I had 20 minutes to spare are over. Going in pubs when you cannot drink should be used as a deterrent rather than prison. It would be more beneficial.
* A fraction of what I drank as a RL player, which is a terrifying thought.
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| Quote tigertot="tigertot"I'm extremely fit late 50's, with a very careful diet. But I like a beer (maybe 20 units a week*). Last year I developed a stomach problem which initially was thought to be alcohol related. I had to stop alcohol for 3 or 4 months; fortunately it was found not to be the cause. But you need something like that to jolt you out of the pretence that alcohol is not a huge problem to yourself & society. I still love a drink but the times I would sneak one in for no reason other than I had 20 minutes to spare are over. Going in pubs when you cannot drink should be used as a deterrent rather than prison. It would be more beneficial.
* A fraction of what I drank as a RL player, which is a terrifying thought.'"
So, you are an old bitter RL player with an axe to grind, glad you finally confirmed it, I reckon it wasn't a high level club. Chin up sir
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| Quote MGarbutt1986="MGarbutt1986"So, you are an old bitter RL player with an axe to grind, glad you finally confirmed it, I reckon it wasn't a high level club. Chin up sir'"
Yes. No. No. Not. It's relative.
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| Quote nottinghamtiger="nottinghamtiger"Thankfully not. I’m far too competent for that.
It didn’t need inside information, as it was in a public statement from Wigan.'"
That they wouldn't support Mullen??
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| Quote Itchy Arsenal="Itchy Arsenal"That they wouldn't support Mullen??'"
Not sure if you meant to reply to me. I didn’t suggest they would or they wouldn’t. I said it would be interesting to see what the club do, not that I knew what that would be.
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| Why should the club “support” him? He should have been sacked on the spot.
Absolutely no excuse for getting into a car and being over the drink drive limit
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| Quote Ruune Rebellion="Ruune Rebellion"Why should the club “support” him? He should have been sacked on the spot.
Absolutely no excuse for getting into a car and being over the drink drive limit'"
As of now, he's not been found guilty of any offence.
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| Quote Phuzzy="Phuzzy"Thinly veiled? Don't make me laugh! When has Lenagan ever been even remotely veiled when criticising other teams or organisations? You must be referring to the thinly veiled 'Yorkshire Mafia' comment or his thinly veiled 'the TV deal should never have been signed' or the many thinly veiled comments about the competence of the RFL.
Hardaker had been with the club over 6 months by this time, and the 'should have been addressed before now' equally applied to Wigan. Whilst it could (and should) have related to his previous clubs too, you're seeing what you want to here. I guess you're the sort of poster who would only be satisfied should Wigan take all the responsibility for any failings whether they took place during his time there or not.
I'll tell you what; let's all pretend Wigan are responsible for Bailey bottling someone, Ferris sleeping with his best mate's wife or Zak beating up a student, casting homophobic slurs or being found with cocaine in his system in Grand Final week. God forbid any other club should be culpable.
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What on earth are you waffling on about?
I haven’t once blamed any club for Hardaker or any other players stupidity/failings. They are the fault of that player and no-one else. It would be like blaming Hull for Gareth Raynor getting sent down. I don’t lay one iota of blame or responsibility at any clubs door for their players off-field behaviour. It’s a shame Ian Lenagan doesn’t think the same way and took the chance for a petty shot at Leeds and Cas. He should stick to making up contracts for his staff.
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| Quote SouthStander.com="SouthStander.com"Can we please be very careful what is posted about this please. Innocent until proven guilty and nothing sub-judice.'"
Correct. Innocent until proven guilty
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