And IMO he's close to stepping over that line trying to tap up NRL players (and Rangi Chase to a lesser extent). I think the fact that so many people have a similar opinion proves the point.



Anyway, we'll probably have to agree to disagree on this one!

Of course, I never expected you to see sense anyway

Ah well, let's not bother then. Let's just keep our game rooted entirely within the north of England. Sod international RL, and the money that can come from TV companies for it, so that some deluded fans can see their puritanical fantasy, of what international sport is meant to be, intact.



My view is that that we must make an effort and we have to start somewhere. I guess that is just far too unreasonable for some people to accept.

He has tapped NRL players - Widdop and Reid - but you don't seem to have a problem with those two?

I thought it would be right up your street, what with your Flat Earth ideology

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It’s a bit like the Expansionist debates, with a fair few Cas fans swapping sides, because it’s about ‘Our Rangi’

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you can of course back that claim up?

If you want to get offended (and my word what a sheltered life you must lead if you are) then get offended at this.



Your more of a plonker than I thought if you would drop the captain of the national side before a tournament. Moz is obviously OK- even though he will be over the hill for the World Cup.



Read my post a little more carefully you prize tool. Or any of the others I have made. You will see that I don't think your post has anything to do with racism. However when people post utter rot I can see why others might jump to that conclusion. To be honest I'm offended you could be that stupid.



But as with your original comments, why let the facts stand in the way of a good rant.

If its all about playing by the rules then Manu needs to be in the squad!!

Ok then if it wasn't directed at me, then I apologise. I don't really know the reason why the racism word was banded about, because there hasn't been any in this thread and it seemed to be used as a defence tool to support an argument (not by you btw).



I explained my reasons why I was against it - he can't apply for a passport yet, so how can qualify under residency rules (this seems to be an only RL belief, because he couldn't play Union or Cricket (for example) for England under this ruling), the way he said he wanted to play for NZ just a couple of months ago and now he's changed his tune; he's a mercenary same as Heighington, and that the RFL tell our clubs to bring through young players to help the England team, yet they're happy to pick Aussies and Kiwis in the same team.



As for Peacock, he's only played half the SL games this season, so he wouldn't really be my starting pick. He'd be in the squad and on the bench v the Aussies, as he's always wants to smash them, same with Morley really. In the squad and bench v Aussies/Kiwis, but I really think it should be their final tournament and it's time to bring some new faces in and I believe now is the best time to do it, otherwise they simply won't be ready (I disagree that the Knights program brings preparation for the more inexperienced, because playing Scotland in front of say 1,000 just isn't the same scenario). Peacock and Morley should be on the sidelines and coaching team during the WC to help guide the players (like Wiki does for NZ), I think that's an important weapon. Maybe we could use Sculthorpe or someone similar during the Four Nations in this position too.

You're wrong.



Let's have a look at eligibility criteria in the sports you mention:







So – rugby union: three year residency rule same as rugby league, no mention of passports or citizenship.







Cricket - minimum requirement- spent half a year for each of four years in the country you want to play for (don't have to be a citizen or hold a passport)

For those who've used the argument "this is just the way international sport is these days" - and "cricket and union do it" - ask yourself, where are those sports in terms of developing their own homegrown talent?



This isn't about Rangi Chase, it's about the way the England management are trawling the NRL, all in the pursuit of "competion for places" - not seeing that the trade off is you screw yourselves long term. I hope England win the 4 Nations and Rangi scores a bag full of tries, but deep down, I want to see that chance go to a kid we've developed, not somebody who "qualifies" - which, let's face it, could be half the NRL. This opinion is deemed to be narrow minded but what's more narrow minded, and short-sighted than prizing a win in the 4 Nations this year over everything else?!

What's to stop the secret subsidy of Oz/Kiwi players on the edges of National/SOO rep to get them in the country on a 3 year contract and have them playing for England in 2014?