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| Quote rufustanner="rufustanner"Does anybody know why he wants out? Surely whatever the club has lost (or whatever funding was required) a successful businessman could have predicted?'"
How many times , sport has nothing to do with successful business or successful businessmen , add to that a reccession like the one we are currently in and all rules go out the window , it can take years to make a fortune , but one second to lose one , as soon as the decision to get involved in proffessional sport is made all is at risk |
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| Quote the day will come="the day will come"and how many of them were away fans. with only a 100 season tickets sold and a few free entry there was no way it could work a shame but that is the top and bottom of it. they were not ready for sl and the main blame goes to lewis who fell to the blackmail of LS'"
And where did you get the 100 figure from?
When it comes down to it we would have had the same as any other club with regards to away fans. In fact heartland clubs, you could argue, will see more fans travelling as it is easier and quicker to get to and from away games. |
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| Quote crucrucrusaders="crucrucrusaders"The fact is hasn't worked in South Wales to date is because we're being run by a bunch of amateurs and our money man wants no more to do with it, or cannot have any more to do with us through lack of money. Simple as that really. If we had better people on board who didn't drop clangers like the VISA rubbish and numerous other things then we might have a bit of credit for things like junior development. As it is mud sticks and people only remember the bad things.
The facts outside of the bad running of this club are a lot of youngsters coming through, quite a few of those youngsters a part of the European Cup winning Wales squad, a 3,668 average who watched a team that wasn't that great by any stretch of the imagination. There are also around 20 times as many schools now taking part in competitive games against one another in comparison to 3 years ago. This is mainly due to Crusaders work in the community. As I say take away the bad running of this club and we have done ok. Not outstanding in some areas, I'll be the first to admit, but we've done very well in others and it's been far from a failure apart from the running of the club and Leighton Samuel wanting out.
I just hope we can find some South Wales organisation that will pump money in and can keep us down here to continue the good work.'"
If the management is as bad as you claim it to be, and circumstantial evidence supports your view, it does make me wonder what the "auditors" of the license applications actually did. |
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| Quote Barnacle Bill="Barnacle Bill"If the management is as bad as you claim it to be, and circumstantial evidence supports your view, it does make me wonder what the "auditors" of the license applications actually did.'"
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To be fair the bad management of the club wasn't so as glaringly obvious in the lower leagues.
That is one shining light of Leighton Samuel wanting out. If he does go the new people should bring in their own staff who will have to go some to get anywhere near as bad as the current lot.
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| Quote GetThemScallyWags="GetThemScallyWags"There there.. No need to get so emotional
What's idiotic and repetitive is the way you constantly ram your opinion down the throats of and deride anyone who disagrees with you.
Maybe it's time that you and your 'ilk' just accepted the fact that you're in an ever shrinking minority of forum users who are becoming the subject of much ridicule for your angry rantings and complete denial of negative impacts of this current RFL cock up.
If you don't agree with what someone is saying, try accepting it rather than your tedious and vain attempts to change people over to your way of thinking. You're just making yourself like a stubborn little child throwing a tantrum.'"
i actually think the forum is becomming more expansion orientated.
i used to write it off as populated by people with closed minds, and small towns with no vision of the future
ive been happily surprised lately to see so many people who think about whats good for RL, not just their own little failed club |
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| Quote littlerich="littlerich"He is making a point though - intimating that he does agree with expansion but only in a measured way. Thr RFL took a big risk with Celtic at the expense (at the time) of a ready made SL club. ScallyWags is merely saying that's not how it should be done. I've made my own feelings on this known in other threads - if we want expansion to work we've got to have patience and a lot of cash - something which nobody seems to have had with the Celtic saga.'"
so widnes werent more of a risk at the time
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| Quote Starbug="Starbug"How many times , sport has nothing to do with successful business or successful businessmen , add to that a reccession like the one we are currently in and all rules go out the window , it can take years to make a fortune , but one second to lose one , as soon as the decision to get involved in proffessional sport is made all is at risk'"
when did Premier LEague soccer stop being a sport.
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| to show how hypocritical these people are, starbag above says sport should have nothing to do with succesful businessmen
yet previously when asked the difference between heartland and expansion clubs said at least heartland clubs always had succesful businessmen to bail them out
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| Quote dally messenger="dally messenger"so widnes werent more of a risk at the time
the bias of these guys is just so strong'"
Stop and think, for a moment.
At the time. They weren't more of a risk.
However, I concede that politically, it would have been hard to put them in - it would have sent the wrong message. It would have made adminstration inconsequential.
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At the time (ie, 6 months after coming out of administration) they were so far ahead of Celtic that Samuels would have needed the hubble telescope to see the Super League ready Widnes stadium and O'Connor's money seeping out of it's walls. |
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| Quote littlerich="littlerich"Stop and think, for a moment.
At the time. They weren't more of a risk.
However, I concede that politically, it would have been hard to put them in - it would have sent the wrong message. It would have made adminstration inconsequential.
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At the time (ie, 6 months after coming out of administration) they were so far ahead of Celtic that Samuels would have needed the hubble telescope to see the Super League ready Widnes stadium and O'Connor's money seeping out of it's walls.'"
a new company with no trading history is more of a risk than one that had been trading well for longer
but lets just ignore the facts, it doesnt make you guys look good. |
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| Quote crucrucrusaders="crucrucrusaders"I just hope we can find some South Wales organisation that will pump money in and can keep us down here to continue the good work.'"
So do I. Good luck! |
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