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| I'd go with :
1 S. Tomkins
2 Goulding (Briscoe if Hall is fit)
3 O'Loughlin (Shenton if he is fit)
4 Widdop
5 Briscoe (Hall if he is fit)
6 Brown
7 Robinson
8 Fielden
9 Roby
10 Graham
11 Ellis
12 Westwood (Burgess if Shenton is fit)
13 Burgess (O'Loughlin if Shenton is fit)
14 Lunt
15 J. Tomkins (Westwood if Shenton is fit)
16 Crabtree
17 Griffin
Looked more dangerous with Tomkins at full back and Robinson at scrum half. Thought Widdop was poor at full back but decent at centre alot better than Atkins, keep him there.
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| Quote FC Callum="FC Callum"I'd go with :
1 S. Tomkins
2 Goulding (Briscoe if Hall is fit)
3 O'Loughlin (Shenton if he is fit)
4 Widdop
5 Briscoe (Hall if he is fit)
6 Brown
7 Robinson
8 Fielden
9 Roby
10 Graham
11 Ellis
12 Westwood (Burgess if Shenton is fit)
13 Burgess (O'Loughlin if Shenton is fit)
14 Lunt
15 J. Tomkins (Westwood if Shenton is fit)
16 Crabtree
17 Griffin
Looked more dangerous with Tomkins at full back and Robinson at scrum half. Thought Widdop was poor at full back but decent at centre alot better than Atkins, keep him there.'"
I wouldnt keep our two fit centres in the stand. Widdop is an inexperienced full back, to play him in the centres against the Aussies is a recipe for disaster. Ryan Atkins was poor and is capable of playing a lot better and has to be included in the weekends team.
If Tony Clubb does not play in front of moving Widdop or O'Loughlin then he should not have been named in the squad.
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| Risky in the centres but I think I would go:
S Tomkins
R Atkins
D Goulding
L Cudjoe
T Briscoe
K Brown
L Robinson
J Graham
S Lunt
S Fielden
G Ellis
J Tomkins
S O'Loughlin
J Roby
S Burgess
B Westwood
E Crabtree
Much more oomph off the bench and we need to score points to win the game on Saturday - we won't do that by playing back rowers in the centres (possible exception of J Tomkins).
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| I like the look of that, but the Atkins, Goulding wing could be very fragile defensivly. The rest of the squad I like though.
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| Too much hype around Widdop, he's a good player with potential but that's about it. Tomkins would be my preferred fullback with the Hudds pair in the halves.
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| S.Tomkins ----- S.Tomkins
Briscoe -------- Briscoe
Ellis ----------- Widdop
J.Tomkins ----- Goulding
Goulding ------- Hall/Cudjoe
Widdop -------- Brown
Robinson ------ Robinson
Graham ------- Graham
Lunt ---------- Roby
Fielden -------- Fielden
Westwood ----- Ellis
Burgess ------- Burgess
O'loughlin ----- O'loughlin
Roby ---------- Lunt
Crabtree ------ Crabtree
Griffin --------- Griffin
Harrison ------- J.Tomkins
Team i'd like on left ( Second rowers in centres, both fast enough and will help Widdop and Robinson defensively as they could both be caught out at times. Plenty of pace aswell out wide and Ellis and Tomkins both run better lines than any of the centres in the squad. ) Team i expect is on the right though and for me has far more weaknesses.
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| Also i think McNamara missed a trick not taking Michael Lawrence, he's great defensively and helps Cudjoe. Whereas Cudjoe has that extra bit of class/magic in attack to make them dangerous as a pairing. That could of been one side of the backs sorted and potentially for years especially with them having understanding of each others games from playing week in week out alongside each other.
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| the Cudjoe/Lawrence pairing is shaping up to be one of real quality, this tour will have helped Cudjoe and next season I would hope to see both of them in contention for an England shirt as a wing/centre partnership.
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| Quote saint billy="saint billy"Westwood wasn't our best player, James Graham was, although he had a decent game.
Tomkins
Goulding
Atkins
Shenton
Goulding
Brown
Robinson
Graham
Roby
Fielden
Westwood
Ellis
O'Loughlin
Burgess
Crabtree
Griffin
Harrison.
Thats what i'd go for. A massive bench, with Burgess and Harrison able to cover anywhere in the pack except hooker, with Crabtree and Griffin rotating at prop. Also, if injuries occur to the backs, then the likes of Ellis or O'Loughlin can slot in if needs be. Joel Tomkins was rubbish when he come on, IMO, and doesn't deserve to be picked on the bench.'"
I'd pick the same as you mate, but Lunt on the bench instead of Griffin.
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| Quote jonny the leyther="jonny the leyther"I'd pick the same as you mate, but Lunt on the bench instead of Griffin.'"
Shenton has been injured since that post Jonny. So that would need some adjusting.
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| Quote Nozzy="Nozzy"Shenton has been injured since that post Jonny. So that would need some adjusting.'"
Not to mention Goulding playing on both wings.
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| id personally play widdop stand off as thats apparantly where he is going to be playing next year for melbourne. Kev brown is awful and no where near good enough for this level. if doing drop offs everytime you touched it worked then he would be a world beater! Start luke robinson at scrum half and have tomkins at full back. If we really need to change any of the half backs during the game then oloughlin could fill in there and he will do a better job than brown. carvell in for griffin who should be no where near this squad. tomkins to centre and then bring harrison onto the bench. so my full team would be.....
1.tomkins
2.goulding
3.tomkins
4.o'loughlin
5.briscoe
6.widdop
7.robinson
8.fielden
9.roby
10.graham
11.ellis
12.westwood
13.burgees
14.carvell
15.harrison
16.crabtree
17.lunt
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