I do not know if this new structure is good or not but for me living were i live now down south, I have been able to watch more games on sky thanks to the sky sports extra I am now hoping they do it at the start of next season in stead of waiting till the splits its been greet for us x northerners

Seems like a lot of effort to create and then solve a problem that doesn't need to exist.

Doesn't that apply to any system?



The whole point of this system was that 'every minute matters' yet here we are before the end of the season saying that not only was such a thing an impossible aim but a bad one as well. Not only can 'every minute matters' not be achieved it would be a bad thing if it were

If tickets are more difficult to sell on short notice it seems pretty dumb to put in place a system which necessitates the selling of tickets at short notice doesn't it.

Yeah we know all that. Not sure what that has to do with the league system or what was being discussed.

Agree. Too many people determined not to like the system regardless.

There was always the possibility that the RFL could have implemented a successful change.



You have set up a weird false dichotomy that our options are either down playing and not marketing the sport properly or making unsubstantiated claims.



There was the option of success, see the NRL for an example.

The NRL are in a significantly stronger position than the RFL, and it's not to do with the league system.

Due to their position in Sydney they get a cracking TV deal so they can afford to run and financially support 4 of the 16 NRL clubs.



They also get significant government support, for instance in the building of the new $21m Rugby League Central. Two thirds of which was paid for by central and local government.



In Leeds we don't even get a development officer part paid for by the Council anymore.

Ding Ding Ding



People whining like little schoolgirls....."but but but, the tag line said".....who cares it's just a bloody tag line, take it with a pinch of salt FFS.

It has everything to do with the topic under discussion......all the new system has delivered is the same fans to Headingley for a couple of more games (on the season ticket), 7 of the top 8 the same as last year, 7 of the 8 from 2013, 7 of the 8 from 2012..........etc



Getting the same fans to pay for an extra couple of games isn't a sustainable or long term strategy...it's more short termism from the RFL.



With London now in freefall, there is every possibility that all but Catalans will be from the north in the top 24 inside 2 years. How do you sell that to a sponsor? TV figures and crowds are down in the first year of this new system.....7 of the 12 games this weekend have nothing riding on them......it was flawed when it was announced and the fact that it can't be hailed as a success shows how badly it has performed!



It's not extraordinary and every moment doesn't count......it's the same stuff reheated and flogged on!

We don't have enough teams to run a straight season. Clubs struggle to manage on 11 games. So we need extra games. We've always had them in SL in some form or another and they're very much needed.



That isn't to do with the league system. That's to do with the strength of clubs, the player pool and league and club finances.



I'd love a 16 team league. But we don't have the clubs to fill it.



As for clubs in the north... Well, like I said, we know all that. Again that has nothing to do with the league system.



You keep saying the system has performed badly, compared to what?



It is obvious to anyone without an agenda that this new system makes the regular league more important than previously for the top 8 clubs.

I agree with the point about Wakefield but I don't think that negative overrides the entire system to make it "poor", especially as we're not even 1 year into it yet.



It seems you just want to have a pop at the RFL. By all means, do. But stop conflating the several issues. And also, if this system is so poor, which system would work significantly better?



As for your final comments about the taglines used to sell the new system, don't be so daft. You know exactly why those kind of comments were used and would complain had they not used such comments.



Unfortunately, as usual, despite having some valid points, you're making yourself look daft again. Another name change on the way soon no doubt.

Gutterfax drifting off towards talking about London and the geography of RL clubs.....what a surprise.