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| Quote My Mate Ronnie="My Mate Ronnie"What would the RFL do if Wakefield & Salford made the final ........'"
They'd have a great game to sell, with 2 sides that play open attacking rugby league and I guarentee that there would be more fans there than last season 
IF The RFL did their job properly and sold all of the tickets, apart from those held back for the 2 finalists, it shouldn't matter if its Wath Brow v Normanton Knights playing at Wembley |
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| Quote wrencat1873="wrencat1873"They'd have a great game to sell, with 2 sides that play open attacking rugby league and I guarentee that there would be more fans there than last season
IF The RFL did their job properly and sold all of the tickets, apart from those held back for the 2 finalists, it shouldn't matter if its Wath Brow v Normanton Knights playing at Wembley'"
Your second paragraph is correct the RFl are responsible for selling out the game regardless of who is in final.
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| Quote My Mate Ronnie="My Mate Ronnie"What would the RFL do if Wakefield & Salford made the final ........'"
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I really fear for the sport as a professional game over the next 5-10 years. I believe we are in real danger of going out of business. My team (currently SL Champions) crowds are down a third on a few seasons ago. I used to go to the games in a large group but now the majority can’t be bothered these days (apart from finals of course).
Bad move by the RFL this, one that has potential to really damage the sport (maybe irreversibly)?
I know he got a bad press back in the day but no way something like this would have happened under Maurice Lindsay’s reign.
We need some fresh blood in or we are in serious trouble.
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| Quote MattyB="MattyB"I really fear for the sport as a professional game over the next 5-10 years. I believe we are in real danger of going out of business. My team (currently SL Champions) crowds are down a third on a few seasons ago. I used to go to the games in a large group but now the majority can’t be bothered these days (apart from finals of course).
Bad move by the RFL this, one that has potential to really damage the sport (maybe irreversibly)?
I know he got a bad press back in the day but no way something like this would have happened under Maurice Lindsay’s reign.
We need some fresh blood in or we are in serious trouble.'"
We've been in decline for the last 10 years and yes we do need another Uncle Mo, the Challenge Cup because of its historical nature should never have been devalued to give the Superleague Trophy superiority, they should stand as equal. |
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| Quote Judder Man="Judder Man"We've been in decline for the last 10 years and yes we do need another Uncle Mo, the Challenge Cup because of its historical nature should never have been devalued to give the Superleague Trophy superiority, they should stand as equal.'"
Does the FA Cup stand equal to the Premiership?
A 4/5 game cup competition SHOULDN’T be equal to the Grand Final regardless of history. |
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| Quote rollin thunder="rollin thunder"Your second paragraph is correct the RFl are responsible for selling out the game regardless of who is in final.
lets just leave the first paragraph there shall we.'"
I know that neither Trinity or Salford are giants in the game but, what was wrong with the first paragraph ??
Even though they got hammered, Cas certainly took plenty to Wembley and Trinity would certainly do likewise.
Wakefields problem wouldn't be in selling the tickets, it's just making it through to the final that is a bit difficult. |
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| Quote My Mate Ronnie="My Mate Ronnie"What would the RFL do if Wakefield & Salford made the final ........'"
perhaps the rfl could introduce some sort of sliding scale of charges  |
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| Quote ThePrinter="ThePrinter"Does the FA Cup stand equal to the Premiership?
A 4/5 game cup competition SHOULDN’T be equal to the Grand Final regardless of history.'"
The Challenge Cup Final, much like The FA Cup Final in football, was always the end of season showpiece/celebration of the game and although The SL Title (like The Premiership Title) should always carry more kudos, "we" have devalued the Cup Final and it will never return to it's former status (unless we revert to being a winter game).
However, this still doesn't change the situation with Catalan, who are being punished for daring to win last seasons final, how utterly ironic and how bloody ridiculous.
Should they also have to pay a "bond" just in case they make the grand final or, are the powers that be just hoping that it doesnt happen ??  |
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I find it incredible that the RFL actually employs anyone so stupid to think it's a good idea to apply bonds to some clubs in case they reach the final, yet presumably they employ several people this stupid as it must have got through some sort of review process. Attendances at the CC final have been sliding for years, that's not the fault of overseas clubs. Placing bonds doesn't resolve the underlying problem, if Wembley is a problem then move it somewhere else, having been to CC finals at Murryfield and Cardiff they were both great experiences. This approach makes the RFL an absolute laughing stock.
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-leagu ... challenge/
Catalans Dragons may not defend the Challenge Cup after being asked to lodge a bond of £500,000.
The cup final has traditionally been a valuable money-earner for the cash-strapped governing body, but last year’s disappointing attendance meant a reduction of around £800,000 in projected income.
Fearful of a repeat, the RFL asked both the Catalans and Toronto Wolfpack to lodge bonds, thought to be in the region of £500,000, in the event of either of them reaching Wembley in 2019 and the Canadian club, after refusing point blank to pay up, will not take part this year.
The Dragons have stopped short of threatening a boycott, but have written to the governing body urging it to reconsider, with chairman Bernard Guasch claiming it would be irresponsible for his club to pay the bond.
In a statement, Guasch said: “The club has been officially advised in December that a £500,000 deposit will be asked by the RFL to play in the Challenge Cup in 2019.
“We, as a club, want to participate in this prestigious competition and defend our title, but it would be irresponsible to accept this decision.
“Thus, we have asked the RFL to reconsider its demand and we are now waiting for a decision.
“The players would be very frustrated not to be able to defend their title and we hope that we’ll have an answer as soon as possible.”
Because they are not full members of the RFL, Toronto and Catalans have no automatic right to enter the Challenge Cup, but it would be a major embarrassment for the governing body if the holders are not in the draw for the sixth round in May.
The RFL said in a statement: “We have been surprised and disappointed by the uncertainty over the Catalans Dragons participation in the 2019 Challenge Cup, which surfaced just before Christmas.
“We have been in discussions with the club since then, and will continue those discussions to search for a solution.”
Coincidentally, the competition is set to break new ground when Serbian club Red Star Belgrade make their debut against Cumbrian amateurs Millom in the first round on Jan 27.
The RFL, which reported a loss of £2 million in its last set of accounts for 2017, is still seeking a Challenge Cup sponsor after Ladbrokes failed to renew its backing.
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-leagu ... challenge/
Catalans Dragons may not defend the Challenge Cup after being asked to lodge a bond of £500,000.
The cup final has traditionally been a valuable money-earner for the cash-strapped governing body, but last year’s disappointing attendance meant a reduction of around £800,000 in projected income.
Fearful of a repeat, the RFL asked both the Catalans and Toronto Wolfpack to lodge bonds, thought to be in the region of £500,000, in the event of either of them reaching Wembley in 2019 and the Canadian club, after refusing point blank to pay up, will not take part this year.
The Dragons have stopped short of threatening a boycott, but have written to the governing body urging it to reconsider, with chairman Bernard Guasch claiming it would be irresponsible for his club to pay the bond.
In a statement, Guasch said: “The club has been officially advised in December that a £500,000 deposit will be asked by the RFL to play in the Challenge Cup in 2019.
“We, as a club, want to participate in this prestigious competition and defend our title, but it would be irresponsible to accept this decision.
“Thus, we have asked the RFL to reconsider its demand and we are now waiting for a decision.
“The players would be very frustrated not to be able to defend their title and we hope that we’ll have an answer as soon as possible.”
Because they are not full members of the RFL, Toronto and Catalans have no automatic right to enter the Challenge Cup, but it would be a major embarrassment for the governing body if the holders are not in the draw for the sixth round in May.
The RFL said in a statement: “We have been surprised and disappointed by the uncertainty over the Catalans Dragons participation in the 2019 Challenge Cup, which surfaced just before Christmas.
“We have been in discussions with the club since then, and will continue those discussions to search for a solution.”
Coincidentally, the competition is set to break new ground when Serbian club Red Star Belgrade make their debut against Cumbrian amateurs Millom in the first round on Jan 27.
The RFL, which reported a loss of £2 million in its last set of accounts for 2017, is still seeking a Challenge Cup sponsor after Ladbrokes failed to renew its backing.
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| Quote wrencat1873="wrencat1873"I know that neither Trinity or Salford are giants in the game but, what was wrong with the first paragraph ??
Even though they got hammered, Cas certainly took plenty to Wembley and Trinity would certainly do likewise.
Wakefields problem wouldn't be in selling the tickets, it's just making it through to the final that is a bit difficult.'"
you said you could guarantee that a Salford Wakefield final would sell more that a warrington Catalan final, would you be prepared to put down 500k as a bond to ensure it did. really could not see a wakefield salford final selling more that 50k, and to be fair thats more to do with Salford, Wakefield against anyone else maybe would not be a bad attendance except maybe Huddersfield. |
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