All this questioning of Wane's abilities as a coach is unfair. So is the accusation that he looks like some sort of ape - If you visit Wigan on any given day and wander around their town centre or local Asda, you will all see for yourself that the Neanderthal look that Wane has is absolutely normal around those parts.



Its like picking on an individual Chinese person for have slanty eyes....

To quote the great poet Kid Rock;



It ain't bragging motherplucker if you back it up.

Although we lost, I can appreciate just how good of a game that was. I hope the new structure next year produces more matches of that intensity, because currently we only seem to see that level of intensity in wigan/wire matches.

You've really lost it. Kid Rock 'great'? LMFAO

To put Wanes coaching expertise in perspective: Does anybody believe his parochial, heart on sleeve style would work anywhere outside his hometown club?

haha experts critics time line on Shaun Wane



1st Wigan will go back to mediocrity because shaun wane isn't good enough

2nd He is living off Madge tactics and squad

3rd Wigan will struggle now their 6 and 7 have left and won't play to Madge game plan

4th Wigan are average but because shaun feeds them raw steak and plays a simple game plan they work well

5th its the assistance coaches who do all the coaching shaun is just a motivator

6th now its he wouldn't be a good coach with another of club because he is Wigan through and through



Funny how some people try to convince themselves that Shaun is a bad coach because it makes them feel better. Nobody wants to mention how he dominated the under 20's for god knows how long and now he is doing the same with the senior team just bite your tongue and accept your wrong and that Shaun Wane is one of the best british coaches around.

My tongue obviously planted firmly in cheek!

Good coach but Clyde was a good boxer too.

Up to the end of last year we'd had four RL season in this decade 2010-13 with three trophies to be won each season. Of the twelve trophies to be won in the four years -

Wigan have won 6,

Warrington 3,

Leeds 2,

Huddersfield 1.



This year Leeds have added another win to make three, Saints are now on the list with the LLS.

On Saturday either Wigan will increase their total to 7 or Saints will add another to make 2.

I'll let you off then!

No one serious counts the LLS as a "trophy" of substance! Remember Brian McDermott's comments after the CC final re the 10 trophies Leeds have won over the past 10 years - he ignored the 2 LLS as, like it or not, to the serious teams it is merely an enabler, not a trophy that they are determined to win. He did include the WCC however but that's not really available for everyone to go at as such.



So over the past 4 seasons to date it's really:

Wigan 4

Leeds 3

Wire 2

Why 4 seasons?

Why not 5 or 3 or 2 or 1. Seems a bit of a random number selector.



If the LLS mean little, then same could be argued of the CC as most teams don't bother to try and win it as it take their eye off the ball for the GF.



It's just left to the pretenders to win.



So may as well just count GF winners.