Come on Butcher, were not expecting miracles, any halfback what cannot pinpoint a 10 - 15 yard pass to hand is pretty bad. We are talking superleague here. Age means nothing if you're good enough you're old enough I take it you wasn't at the game as usual. I've heard nothing but praises about this young French lad, I hope he proves me wrong but a spade is a spade in my world, didn't see any flashes which I've seen in many of young talent to come through our academy. I feel for the kid he's simply out of his depth but applaud his endeavours attitude and bravery.

Here here butcher. A very large number of reds fans have no patience and need to realise rome wasnt built in a day. The very fact that we had a team to turn out last night is one of great relief. This is a complete new era as Mr Koukash has said and it takes time to build success. The team that played last night have been thrown together at short notice and are still getting to know how each one of them plays. Kepp the faith salford fans and lets get behind the players in what is going to be probably a difficult season.

Well Phil he won the Man of the Match given by a top Player from the 70s so there must have been something there. I thought his kicking was good & he saw the gaps when presented.



Totally agree about the passing and Longy has to get them to spin pass (sadly even the Rah Rahs pass better) & also pass like Matty Smith - deeper and to a man on the burst.



It will come.

Salford fans have to be realistic. The cu is in a situation not even new franchises face and we know how difficult they find SL. It will be easier for the new owner to solve off field issues, on field may take all this season and some of next season.

I think effort got him the Mom. which I'm not being critical of. No one was worthy of mom. Oh by the way Charnley shown Broughton a clean pair of heels to score in the corner which surprised me too. My money would of been on Broughton to smash him in touch.



And I know Rome wasn't built in a day. Doesn't stop us calling a spade a spade does it.

You must ave been at the wrong game or you have still got your Mr Wilkinson tinted glasses on? Would the connection have anything to do with him staying in Shirley's residence.

Yesterday was all about being able to get a team on the pitch, in my opinion Theo Fages stood out as the one player able to break the game line. he never shirked is responsibility & throughout the game was given no protection by the Salford players around him (not a criticism), because the passing was slow he was continually under pressure. Wigan targeted him as a potential threat, well done Theo I thought you were the stand out Salford Player last night.



Well done to PV & SL & your back room staff for your hard work.

Agreed, Mcpherson was far & away our best forward , saw enough of the Frenchman to see why they gave him a 5 yr deal. some nice touches in a team performance it was hard to shine in . McGoldrick , R Williams , J Murphy looked like like three players thown in at the deep end , Murphy had a 'mare , but he wasn't alone.

An overall bad team performance for all sorts of reasons , however it was scoreless for 13 minutes , only went in 0-16 at the half , and were exposed by moves from Charnley, Tompkins & Liam Farrell that would undone more elevated opposition than us.

Although the coaching team put on a brave face during the troubles Veivers admitted "We've lost an entire pre-season,"I've had players in the pipeline --, although I've probably lost a few because of the period of time we've been waiting for the takeover to be completed".

We had Howarth & Gleeson out and still have the two Manly Guys to arrive at least .



Hull touted top 4 side lost 36-6 to Leeds with their big money signings

I'm not having that "lost an entire preseason" bollox, how come the players who were here last year look so unfit? I can understand a lack of cohesion and not having slick set moves, that's understandable but players being overweight and out on their feet for the last 20 in the 1st game of the season is not good. There's being match fit and unfit and half of them are unfit!

I've no doubt Murphy will become a classy player down the line but do think last night he looked like a rabbit in the headlights slightly.



Think that Wigan new how to target him and that they did so very well knocking his confidence early on.



Do as others have said think that Evalds looks like a belting little player in the Fitzy mode and I hope that him being felt out doesn't make him lose faith and look for a move as he is one who would drop down a league for a year or two and then be back with a SL team fulfilling his undoubted potential.

I know this mard ars. as blocked me and others who disagree with his thoughts,again i disagree,if he has`nt got it now he never will have. Instance,Paul Charlton,K Radlinski,P Wellens, B Slater,D lockyer,and the brilliant S Tompkins,the list is endless,did they get shunted off to play in a lower comp?Nah did they hell.

So Losing, Moon - Holdsworth- Smith- Patten - Anderson - Adamson - Gleeson - Paleaasina- Sidlow. and other than Dixon only starting to recruit replacements this week is a structured pre-season. Not knowing if you're getting your mortgage paid or whether the club will exist next month condusive .

They didn't look unfit ,they were knackered after defending for pretty much the whole 2nd half. outclassed not unfit

Why did we lose these players?So they looked fit to play in your eyes,in my world they did`nt,great for 20 mins after that they where knackered.A second rower from Wigan burnt our winger off,get real ,they are unfit.