The idea will be all in attack... The Kevin Keegan approach... they score 30 points... we'll score 40. Who needs defence.

My guess is he won't be this year .

Honest & Gutsy but can't we find that sort of player locally ...? and for less $$

My remit for an overseas signing - skills & experience we can't find with UK based players, talented and exiting player who will attract more fans to watch us .

is this right luke swain going to carcassone, surley he can still get an super league or nrl full time deal

Maybe because he's worked himself into the ground? He put in 36 tackles against Leeds (50% more than any other player on the park).

Not sure why SM as overlooked swain player of the year last year, not missed a game this year, tremendous work ethic. Hope we have not been blighted by other possibly overpaid back rowers, who will not work as hard as swain. With Alker and Swain out the side that's a hell of alot of tackles to be shared around, Adamson shoulders are going to be soe next year.



Let's hope who ever comes in both hooker and back row are prepared to put as much work in??

I tell you what, I would love it if we took that approach, love it

Alker & Swain are 2nd and 4th for the highest number of tackles made this year in the whole of Superleague. Alker's made 934 and Swain's made 769. It's also worth mentioning that Swain has made 343 carries which is way above any other Salford player. Swain's contribution is an average of 33 tackles and 15 carries per game which is incredible. I just hope that Mr McRae is aware of these stats and will have it covered!

I've just been thinking about the fact that Luke himself [imay[/i want to move on / go home (or where ever) and that he [imay[/i have turned down any deal or [imay[/i have wanted a wage increase / been offered more money elsewhere?



The decision [imay[/i be out of Shaun's / Simms' hands.

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I'm sorry but for the fanfar that has greeted Pattens arrival I think this is equally as bad news. Ok a marque signing of Patterns nature is good for the club, but to loose who in effect is our main go to man for hit ups and defensive rock is euqally bad news to Pattens arrival.

Don't see how the club can replce Swain with anyone of a better quality as for me there isnt many around and those that are will require a wage to match Pattens.



Sorry i'm normally not anti SM or Simms but this is a shocking bit of managment if they havent done their upmost to retain him.

I'm not sure I get the whole Swain thing, yes, as I've said before he's a good workhorse and never lets us down but seriously he's not the classy-ist Loose forward you'll ever see. He rarely creates anything, he's just like a second rower in many aspects. I wan't my loose forward to be more like Sculthorpe was or Sinfield is (or John Pendlebury).



He's takes up an overseas spot which, if we can fill that with a top aussie / kiwi / south sea islander from the NRL (ala the Patten of the forward world) then I think its a wise move.



And again we don't know if he wanted to stay or if this offer to France was too good to turn down. You know what the aussies are like they love to travel.





For me I'm much happier keeping a top quality centre like Mark Henry, a world class full back in Patten, A stand off of the likes we haven't seen for years in Holdsworth and a top notch Prop in Cashmere than Swain.



As a replacement Stephen Wild again as I've pointed out in the past their stats aren't far off each other. Although there was a musing regarding Langley?





I'm not knocking the lad but for me, along with the others who are leaving, its the best way to move forward.

Sorry but fail to see where the midfield strength comes from, Swain like him or loathe him is undeniably a rock in the middle of the park, think for Salford he will have saved a considerably higher number of tries with his tackling than even the greatest #13 ever would. maybe if he's a glorofoed second rower we should do something like actually try him there. Not the greatest lover of Wild, ask yourself would a team like Hudds be letting him go if he was still the potent force he was - Mark Edmondson comparisons abound for me.