Better than no team at all though eh?



Why is it a cop out? A cop out from what?



That's my view. Are you saying I'm in denial from my own thoughts?

Just read the title of the thread "Harris Out." After 2 games it says it all, pathetic, not worthy of a serious reply.

The time to get a better opinion would be the last 8 games of the season. No excuses for not gelling then.

Would also be interesting, to see who is retained and what/or if better quality players are signed. We have quite a few players past their best

Having had a couple of days to now digest the game, I feel like I can comment accordingly.



The 3 minute spell where Huddersfield scored 3 tries won them the game, you can't give anyone an 18-0 start in this league and expect to come back unless you're St Helens and unfortunately we aren't. The comedy of errors in that short spell was like something out of a Benny Hill sketch with the Mullaney/Johnson clash summing it up.



We obviously got ourselves back into it at half time, but with the injuries and re shuffle following Johnson's departure and then McPhersons you felt it was only going to go one way.



A few issues are concerning me though;



Jake Mullaney - his goal kicking is the most unpredictable I have ever seen. How he can go from kicking them off the touch line at Hull to missing them (barring Mozza's under the sticks) against Huddersfield is beyond me. It's a major issue.



Tim Smith - the bloke needs dropping, simply. He has had an awful start to his Salford career and it's getting worse. I accept he was a big money signing, but that doesn't mean he's untouchable. Give him a week or two off in the sun, give Theo a run and then start again. I haven't given up on him at all, but it can't carry on as it is.



Martin Gleeson - surely his last season. Slow and poor in both attack and defence, should have put Greg Johnson away in the corner early on in the game but kept hold. Various other offensive and defensive mistakes to.

Agree in the main JGR but I just think he might be useful at right centre as he has pace and his no look passes could put his winger in regularly.

Massive overreaction on here as usual but not a surprise listening to some of the South Stand numpties on Friday night!

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This year was always going to have ups and downs and so it's proven. We played badly and got what we deserved, end of. We also had a rough deal with the bounce of the ball & injuries but the better team won and that can't be disputed. It's dissappointing but we have to look at the bigger picture and realise that it's going to be a couple of years before we seriously challenge the top 4 and this is just a stepping stone to that. Hopefully the Doc will show some patience and get the right structures in place to let this happen. I hate using the "C" word but look how long it has taken City to pick up one league title & an FA cup despite their spending.



I'm not burying my head in the sand here I'm just looking at things rationally. I can see (well I'm not that blind

) the defensive failings, Tim Smith's poor form, our lack of pace in the backs. These cab be addressed we just need to have faith that Harris will address them. I'd certainly take Smith out of the firing line for a short while, his confidence looks shot & we've seen that Theo has the maturity to step up for a short while. He'll come back stronger & will be an asset no doubt. Mullaney's kicking is also a big concern, I believe he was pretty good in Aus so not sure why he's been so poor here. But what other options do we have?



I fear for us at Leeds, they're a class outfit whatever 17 they put out I just hope we stand up and be counted. Widnes (x2), Catalanand HKR are then huge games and are likely to define our season. Win 3 or 4 and we can kick on, lose them and the top 8 may be out of our reach.

Tim Smith,according to Wakefield fans,was poor defensively.



Against Huddersfield the stats show him making 31 tackles - just behind HH and Gleeson.Far too many for a half back - but will almost certainly be needed at Headingley.



Chase made far fewer - as,of course,did Danny Brough.



Smith hasn't been at his best but please don't scapegoat him just because Stu Howarth has gone on loan to Barrow.

Huddersfield absolutley hammered our right side defence. Hansen, Smith and Gleeson were targetted all the way through the game. Ashurst, Chase, Hock, and Meli on the other side of the pitch however made the lowest number tackles with 10, 9, 3 and 1 respectively. Even Greg Johnson made 9 tackles in the short 15-20 minutes he was on the pitch. Hence the reason Murphy scored a hat-trick.

Yes,it shows how stats can be deceptive.

Smith had a high tackle count simply because they kept running at him !

I think we should lay off him,though.

He has been disappointing this season but his performance on Friday is being exaggerated.

I was surprised at Gleesons apparent decline but,as they say,form is temporary,class is permanent . He is a class player so I hope his form returns.

Come on, RDP. It's about time you let go. Everyone has moved on you know?

Disagree with any negative chants aimed at our players. Tim Smith is a quality half back who has started his Salford career disastrously and needs dropping for a few weeks.



Harris has to work with what Noble has assembled, but after however many weeks if watching every week game thus far there have been some dubious signings in key pivot positions ie full back, scrum half and hooker.

Far easier to criticise what's been assembled than focus on who was available and at what cost.