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Quote Gavan, who the court heard was a member of the BNP, pleaded guilty to 22 charges at Woolwich Crown Court in November.
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For our more informed posters do you think if he was a member of the Labour Party it would have been mentioned in this BBC article?
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Quote Gavan, who the court heard was a member of the BNP, pleaded guilty to 22 charges at Woolwich Crown Court in November.
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For our more informed posters do you think if he was a member of the Labour Party it would have been mentioned in this BBC article?
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| Quote Gavan, who the court heard was always eating McDonalds cheeseburgers, pleaded guilty to 22 charges at Woolwich Crown Court in November. '"
Quote A McDonalds spokesman would not comment on whether Gavan had been a member of the Ronald McDonald cheeseburger eating crew. '"
That in context makes just as much sense.
It plays right in to the hands of those that say that the BBC have a leftist agenda and doesn't do much for the supposed impartiality of the Beeb.
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| Quote Wire_Yed="Wire_Yed"That in context makes just as much sense.
It plays right in to the hands of those that say that the BBC have a leftist agenda and doesn't do much for the supposed impartiality of the Beeb.'"
I agree. I think the BNP may have a right to complain over that article.
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| The BBC have now changed the article to
Quote Gavan, who the court heard was a [size=150former [/sizemember of the BNP, pleaded guilty to 22 charges at Woolwich Crown Court in November. '"
Ha ha, some lefty at the BBC has got into bother I guess.
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| Quote Wires71="Wires71"news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bradford/8460696.stm
For our more informed posters do you think if he was a member of the Labour Party it would have been mentioned in this BBC article?'"
If it had been an attack motivated by the perpetrator's political beliefs then yes.
For example if a labour activist had bombed a Conservative Club then it would have been mentioned.
The information gives some context to the attack and is perfectly good journalism.
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| Quote Paul Youane="Paul Youane"If it had been an attack motivated by the perpetrator's political beliefs then yes.
For example if a labour activist had bombed a Conservative Club then it would have been mentioned.
The information gives some context to the attack and is perfectly good journalism.'"
Firstly I agree this would be their (the BBC's) argument if an attack was perpetrated. However with no attack perpetrated there can be no motive for attack.
Secondly, where in the BNP manifesto would I find encouragement to attack anyone?
The court heard that he "showed a strong hostility towards immigrants" this does not neccessarily mean he was assembling explosive devices because of this.
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| Quote Wires71="Wires71"Firstly I agree this would be their (the BBC's) argument if an attack was perpetrated. However with no attack perpetrated there can be no motive for attack.
Secondly, where in the BNP manifesto would I find encouragement to attack anyone?
The court heard that he "showed a strong hostility towards immigrants" this does not neccessarily mean he was assembling explosive devices because of this.'"
Fair enough - I hadn't bothered to read the article. Can't stand the BBC: bunch of humous eating, ginger-bearded, four-eyed, lefties.
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| Quote Wires71="Wires71"news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bradford/8460696.stm
For our more informed posters do you think if he was a member of the Labour Party it would have been mentioned in this BBC article?'"
No but the leader of the Labour Party does not hang out with a Ku Klux Klan Grand Wizard unlike the leader of the BNP.
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| Quote Cave Man="Cave Man"No but the leader of the Labour Party does not hang out with a Ku Klux Klan Grand Wizard unlike the leader of the BNP.'"
How does that apply to this criminal case? In any case Griffin merely shared a stage with the aforementioned. As did Jack Straw with Griffin.
Your point is as relevant as me referring to the alleged fact that the ex leader of the labour party Tony Blair covered up a scandal which involved Lord Robertson's (ex UK Labour Defence Secretary 1997/98 and Secretary General of Nato) links with Thomas Hamilton (Dunblane murderer), procurer of young boys and a massive British establishment Masonic cover up.
Without going into the paedophile links Lord Roberton was a referree for Hamilton's shotgun license application.
Google "george robertson dunblane" and be amazed at how this scandal was suppressed under a National Security 100 year D-Notice.
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Quote Wire 71'" Please note Robertson successfully sued the Scottish Newspaper and the case became the test case for Internet Forum defamation cases. RLFANS mods should beware your comments are potentially libellous and could result in an action against this forum.
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Quote Wire 71'" Please note Robertson successfully sued the Scottish Newspaper and the case became the test case for Internet Forum defamation cases. RLFANS mods should beware your comments are potentially libellous and could result in an action against this forum.
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Quote Cave Man="Cave Man"Please note Robertson successfully sued the Scottish Newspaper and the case became the test case for Internet Forum defamation cases. RLFANS mods should beware your comments are potentially libellous and could result in an action against this forum.
www.guardian.co.uk/media/2004/se ... g.newmedia'"
That's why it was alleged. I am stating nothing other than is in the public domain.
I guess the message board is legally immune from your statement of fact that Mr Griffin "hangs out" with KKK Grand Wizards?
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Quote Cave Man="Cave Man"Please note Robertson successfully sued the Scottish Newspaper and the case became the test case for Internet Forum defamation cases. RLFANS mods should beware your comments are potentially libellous and could result in an action against this forum.
www.guardian.co.uk/media/2004/se ... g.newmedia'"
That's why it was alleged. I am stating nothing other than is in the public domain.
I guess the message board is legally immune from your statement of fact that Mr Griffin "hangs out" with KKK Grand Wizards?
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| Nazis have always been victimised in this way. Read any history book about Kristallnacht, when a load of unruly youths smashed up Jewish businesses and burned synagogues, they always bring up the fact that they were members of the Hitler Youth.
It's all a big agenda of the left to try and make people think that Nazis are bad people who are involved with hate crimes. If a bloke wants to create a nail bomb to kill immigrants then what has that got to do with his political beliefs? 99% of the BNP membership don't want a race war they just want the immigrants to go home without kicking up a fuss, its only if the immigrants want to cause trouble that they will be forced to fight.
I think we should start a movement, "rights for Nazis". Just because you aren't one don't think that it doesn't apply to you.....like the poem goes "first they came for the Nazis, and I did not speak out because I was not a Nazi..." When they come for you, who will be left to speak for you?
The real problem is the current liberal government and their shoddy economic management which has brought our country to its knees, and our army poorly equipped and neglected, we need somebody to bring back strength and pride to Britain and restore our economy and start investing properly in rearming our miltary....IMO the days of the sham democracy are drawing to a close, it is time for a new struggle.
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