The premier league kicks off soon. I suggest people wait till that starts before they make decisions about what's boring and what isn't.



The best thing the nrl and the rfl can do is create a bigger world club challenge. If the top three spots were the qualifying places. we wouldn't have gone into Fridays game at Widnes with the worst bench in about fifteen years.



The product can be better. But I'm not bored in the slightest with rugby league.



Bored of sky and bbc coverage of it ????? yes indeed....

Problem is that too many people actually believe some the cr@p they read on here, and then remember the past through rose-tinted specs.

For me, Rugby League was a lot more entertaining in the late 80's/early 90's when I first started watching the game. It didn't matter that players could be fat or unfit. Positions were more distinguishable back then and their was a lot more flair play.



Today's game is too fast for me; I struggle to keep up with it sometimes. Too many robotic type play (and players) for my liking.



I've watched 3 old games today. Warrington - Wigan 88 New years day. Widnes- Canberra and the Wigan - Widnes 89 title decider. I know that not all games met them standards but they were all thoroughly entertaining. Even the Widnes '89 presentation was a million times better than what we see now. Fans on the pitch celebrating, a makeshift stand to present the trophy. Kurt Sorenson came out as the first player and lifted the trophy and that was it. No getting the team up first, no fireworks, no Coldplay or whatever dirge they play, no captains speech and no team clowning around in front of the cameras and sponsors logos.. That's all that was needed.



Oh and loads of good scraps.

im not bored by rugby league, but the loss of the shoulder charge took away one of, if not the thing i enjoyed the most.



I love a good crash, bang, wallop more than a decent try in all honesty.



I still love watching RL, i just wish we could relax the physical side of the game a bit more





as Barry Mac said.... its not a tickling contest

It's the first time in decades I haven't renewed my season ticket...The last two seasons more often then not I've sat there watching the game and thinking to myself...What on earth am I doing here ? More often than not I've left the match 15/20 minutes early and listened to the car radio waiting for my mates...For me the entertainment value simply isn't there anymore....Very few players have the silky skills of old...The players are built like brick outhouses, strong in the arm but thick in the head relying more on brute force and ignorance than using the skills we all learned in the schoolyard...dummies, sidesteps and general kidology. The top hat was put on it for me when Wire won the league, scoring over a thousand points in the process yet still couldn't call themselves champions...Obviously the be all and the end all is Old Trafford...... a few minutes spraying champagne and the players winning a bling ring...The game is now completely owned by Sky TV and what they demand, they get....Whether or not I end my sabbatical I just don't know, but the game will have to drastically change before I do so.

Me too. Not watched us all season and cancelled my Sky. Going to CC Semi and any playoffs. Totally disenfranchised with the league format and the sanitised game. The spark has gone for me. I'm 42 now and have been watching since I was 7.

For those who find it boring and no longer attend games:



Do you not bother to watch live games or highlights on Sky, BBC or online either, since the game is so boring ?

There have been loads of one sided games in the NRL this year. The other week NZ Warriors beat Paramarra 48-0. State of Origin massively distorts the competition which is why the league table usually ends up tight come this time of year.

Did you watch Leeds on Thursday? Of course they care about the regular season. Any team which goes out determined to finish lower in the table is destined to fail. A team that works hard all year then in September rips up the form book will do well.

Everyone harks back to good old days....



For my grandad it was the 1930s as a kid and 1940s-50s as an adult

For my dad it was the 50s as a kid and the early 1970s team as an adult

For me I thought league was great in the early 1970s (I was 10) and amazing in the 1980s

My kids are different ages but have the same sort of fondness for the days they discovered the game as young kids and the days they appreciated the game as adults



The game is not getting worse....we are getting worse/older!!!

It is not the fact that it is not entertaining. It is the lack of intensity for me. I enjoy watching good defence just as much as great attack. But some of the tries scored in super league are really soft. I know it was ruled out for obstruction but the try widnes scored when the player walked past wood and England would not be seen in the NRL. Great defence means the attack has to be even more brilliant to score, there have been some larger score lines in the NRL recently because of players away playing rep footy. Eels lost their best player for 4 games. You just have to look at the NRL table and look at the points difference columns and compare that to super league to see which league is more competitive. if I had to choose between watching the eels V knight's and wire V Bradford (similar positions) I know which game I would prefer to watch.

Just watch Brooks from West tigers if you want skill and entertainment. He is 19 and has more skill than almost any halback in SL.

Widnes are in only their 3rd season back in superleague after years in the wilderness. You've been there from Day 1 mostly with a multi-millionaire owner/benefactor. You are 8 points better off than us this season, deservedly so. We have won 3 of the last 4 meetings and in all honesty, blew you away last Friday.

Only the most arrogant and one-eyed fans would claim you are "miles ahead of" us. Next season, we'll be better again, so maybe then even you might be able to give credit where it's due.