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| We need to be in 5th by the end of Round 23 to have any chance of making the final 4 after Round 30. Well that's what the historical facts tell me
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| Quote TheDoc="TheDoc"We need to be in 5th by the end of Round 23 to have any chance of making the final 4 after Round 30. Well that's what the historical facts tell me'"
So that's 3 more wins and a draw better than Wigan or Hull in the next 13 games. 4 more wins than Salford or 5 more than Cas or Leeds.
With away ties against Hull, Wigan, Leeds, Castleford and Wigan at the Magic remaining this is a tough, if not impossible, ask.
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| Quote Wires71="Wires71"So that's 3 more wins and a draw better than Wigan or Hull in the next 13 games. 4 more wins than Salford or 5 more than Cas or Leeds.
With away ties against Hull, Wigan, Leeds, Castleford and Wigan at the Magic remaining this is a tough, if not impossible, ask.'"
Yes it's tough, but, not impossible and this year with seemingly more teams capable of taking points off each other, 6th might still give you a chance of 4th
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| 6th could if the gap was very narrow, you win every game and 4th and 5th have a slip of form for a month.
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| Yes if we win about 80 per cent of our remaining games we will probably make top four.
It's like with a government majority of only 17, Labour only needs a net gain of 9 seats from the Tories in this election to win power.
I only need to chop 5 seconds off my 100m time and I will be able to beat Usain Bolt.
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| Quote sally cinnamon="sally cinnamon"Yes if we win about 80 per cent of our remaining games we will probably make top four.
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In 2016, before the split, 4th was 28 points. We would need to win 11/13 (85%) to reach that. After the Super 8s, 4th was 40 points. Assuming we made 4th above we would need to win 6/7 (+2/2 for the GF win)
So by that analysis, to win the GF we have room for only 3 more defeats in the entire season remaining of 22 games. For a team that is averaging 17 points per game and looking clueless in attack that is just a dream.
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| Well anything is possible, after all leeds won SL from 6th, but realistically we are in a battle for 8th. Leigh, Hudds and Widnes look to be favourites for three of the bottom 4 spots and I guess we need to get above Wakey or Catalan to avoid the middle 8's. Interestingly we play Catalan, Wakey and Leigh on three consecutive weekends starting June 24th. There could be quite a few people watching the games from behind the sofa by then.
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| I said before the Saints game, despite losing 5 in a row, I wouldn't be surprised if we won our next 6: there's not a lot between most teams (even the mighty Cas aren't all that you know!). The striking thing this season is how many teams are going on 3, 4 or more game winning runs or losses (or both!): unlike in previous years, I expect there could be a couple of teams make some big movements in the second half of the year.
I expect us to get over Wakey, Saints and Catalans before the split. We need to be within a handful of points of 4th by then (though if it stays tight, that might mean being in 6th), then win 5 or 6 for the top 4. Personally I think we've left ourselves too much to do, and will likely end up 5th or 6th.
A lot will depend on the cup run, which we will surely prioritise, even at the expense of making the Super 8s. We've been incredibly consistent in this for the past 8 years, and I wouldn't be surprised to see us go all the way again this season.
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| One thing I'm sure about. If Wire make the GF this season, they will win it!
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| Its absolute delirium to think we can get near the playoffs..... we have a tough game against Wakefield who are a better side than us.
then we have Hull Away ...always easy that isnt it...??
A rejuvenated Saints at Home
Wigan at Magic who mullered us at home
then Leeds away.....
We'll be out of site with our creative attack, pacey backs, and blockbusting Forwards...
I dont Know why i'm concerned I really dont.... 
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| Quote the flying biscuit="the flying biscuit"Its absolute delirium to think we can get near the playoffs..... we have a tough game against Wakefield who are a better side than us.
then we have Hull Away ...always easy that isnt it...??
A rejuvenated Saints at Home
Wigan at Magic who mullered us at home
then Leeds away.....
We'll be out of site with our creative attack, pacey backs, and blockbusting Forwards...
I dont Know why i'm concerned I really dont....
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We've lost one of nine games away to Hull in the past 8 years under Smith.
Saints didn't look too rejuvenated tonight 
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| Quote NtW="NtW"We've lost one of nine games away to Hull in the past 8 years under Smith.
Saints didn't look too rejuvenated tonight
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Come on mate, you know how it is, all doom and gloom, you can't let facts get in the way of some good old negativity or pessimism. 
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