Although still backing in the glow of a great win there is some merit in what Saddo says regarding our defense. We leaked some soft tries and I have to confess to be briefly being a little apprehensive in the second half having visions of yet another 'entertaining' defeat.



Still, great win as it was we need to back it up now against Wakey and Leeds



Welcome back Benny !!

Saddened is right, we still have not beaten any of the big teams this season, it shows how far our expectations have fallen celebrating a result like this against a team we would have expected to put away with ease in the past few years!

I reserve full judgement until I see the game back on TV, but my initial thoughts are that we were much improved both offensively and defensively; 20m to goal line defence great and no penalties in possession!



But, I agree with Saddo to an extent: we opened up in the middle of the park very easily at times and allowed a few breaks. Luckily, nothing was coming up for Saints and we got away with it.

Well, it's nice to get the win, particularly as it was Saints. And the level of effort was very good, combined with an unusually low error count. We should take a fair bit of confidence from that. But we still have weaknesses in the pack - England and (benchman) Asotasi were just 'ok' for me but I was very impressed with Westwood considering his long holiday, and even more with Harrison who seemed to get through a huge amount of work. Waterhouse too, was good. But we still need to fix the pack to be top 4 again.

The defending was criticised, but we have some young kids that are still learning, plus Saints were very good at moving the ball wide to open up the gaps, so I am not too worried about that atm. Ormsby oozes arrogance, even when he makes cock ups so I hope TS perseveres with him. His catching is now looking very solid, defending is improving, but we still get the odd daft error.



I think Ratch would be my MOM

Why can't we have that level of enthusiasm shown at the start game in game out?

Bennie coming back was the real lift we needed but Michael Monas had his best match for a very long time and I was surprised he didn't get MoM.



We're a long way behind Leeds and Wigan - who are the 2 form teams.



We should have won more easily but did the usual thing of giving Saints the possibility of coming back. The first 30 minute was almost vintage Wire. Just got to turn that into 80 - just !

Different forum, same old Saddened. He's like this in the football thread too.

Just one of the reasons I rarely look on there, along with LGJM.



Talk about blinkered

LGJM has a Napoleon Complex, probably comes from the fact that his brother is more famous than he will ever be.

Nathan Brown has made some comments on the Saints website which are quite chilling for Saints fans.



"I very well know why we were not good enough but I'm not making it public. I told the players at half time what I honestly thought we needed to do to beat Wigan, Leeds or Warrington in a big game".



"I don't think it is coincidence Wigan have been dominating Saints for the past four years, let me say that. I know why it is, I have told the players"

My appraisal: much better, not perfect.



Let's enjoy the win for what it was: an 8 tries to 4 stuffing of a team that has made most of our lives hell. Does it mean we're OT bound? Probably not, butwe all enjoyed ourselves. Surely that's why we watch this game.



Best players were Benny, MMonas, Hill, Harrison. And a special mention goes to England, who I thought was terrific and far better than we've seen before.

Hill did the business today worked hard all the game with no breaks for a breather... well done mate

So If I can get this right:



The standard of superleague is very poor



The team that could have gone top today are the worst side in the league



Luke Walsh has gone from Man of Steel "nailed on", to man of



Wire Thankfully are still rubbish and have a defence second worse only to London.



And Leeds and Wigan would put a hundred points on us now just like they did early on in the season (12-1icon_cool.gif (4-12) when we were even worserer.



I love Saints fans, proper students of the game....