true once beaten and out..its a knockout comp for gods sake....but some people on here still think its a great system and alls brill with the league structure(pillocks)..as for club call(another daft thing)something inside of me wants leeds cos of what i saw last night and want to wipe that smirk off sinfields face..2 days ago i would of sent leeds to that lots ground and let them rip each other apart..i can see an argument for picking hudds or leeds,end of the day its basically a toss of the coin..and may the best win....p.s just hope we dont get silverdud as ref or bent ham...

I literally cant choose between the 2. there are positives and negatives either way. I really do hope we flip a coin live on TV, that to me seems the only way of doing it. in my opinion we will have to play Hudds and Leeds to win it, its just which order you want to do it in. flip the coin and roll on thursday!

Either way, we can't win (unless we actually win of course).



Choose Huddersfield and lose and we'll be laughed at by fans of every other club for being so arrogant as to choose the league leaders. Choose Leeds and lose and we'll be laughed at by fans of every other club for being so stupid as to pick the playoff specialists.



Club call is just a pointless gimmick which benefits nobody.

Warrington will have already chosen and are doing preparation work on how to beat them, while their opposition will have to wait an extra day. This could be a big advantage because the choice is not as clear cut as in other years.

Agree it's a stupid gimmick but you just have to get on with it. I don't think smith does you any favours by griping about it so much. In 2009 and 2010 leeds and saints didn't bat an eyelid, they got on with it, picked their oponents and made the final.



Smith's eagerness to condemn it gives out negative vibes.

Npt really. Mcguire has stated leeds have already started prepping for warrington and they are 99% sure they will pick them.

Spot on - If we are fully prepared and at our best then this Leeds side does not worry me.... They remind me of a latter-career Mike Tyson, who only carried any threat through the reputation he had built years earlier, when, in fact, he was a shot at, pale shadow of his former self, fighter.



I certainly don't think they are a walkover, but we would have to seriously under-perform to get beat by them (as we have managed to do in the previous 2 play off games we have played them in).....I think the 2010 and 2012 Challenge cup finals and last week's meeting are a more realistic guide to the qualities of the two sides and would expect a similar outcome next week if we play close to our potential.

I bet Wigan are hoping and praying that we pick Leeds.

What an intriguing perspective - when Warrington win it's because they're a vastly superior side to Leeds, but when Leeds win it's down to Warrington underperforming. If you genuinely think that the only threat Leeds carry is through reputation then I can say with some confidence that you know nothing at all about rugby league.

I've had a cracking idea and would like to go a step further, how's about the team finishing top win the league and are Champions, what a novelty

I admit that half of the task of a successful side is to stop the opposition being able to perform to their best and Leeds have done that well in the 2 previous victories over Wire - However, both these victories were close ones.



When Wire do break the Leeds shackles (2010 and 2012 Cup finals and last week), then they normally run out very comfortable victors....It plainly indicates that if Wire perform then they are better than Leeds.



I don't think beating Leeds is a formality, far from it, but my view is simple - Play to our best and we won't get beaten.... I'm not dissing Leeds, I just have a belief that this Wire team is as good as any in the league and rather than fearing who we choose for this play off game, we should simply prepare correctly and let our quality on the pitch do its talking.

Which could suggest that it's two very good teams performing close to their best and Leeds being slightly the better/smarter on the day, but no, to you it can only indicate that Warrington under performed.





It's not a plain indication of superiority whatsoever, other than on that particular day. It could equally indicate that on those days Warrington were running hot and Leeds had a bad day at the office, but you want to have it both ways - Leeds are always at their best and it's good enough to beat Wire on a bad day, but way way short if Warrington play anything close to their potential.







You're not dissing Leeds when you say that they're like Tyson in his later days and are merely living on reputation? That's a pretty comprehensive 'dissing' if you ask me, and of the team that's won the last two Grand Finals (beating the unbelievably talented Warrington either on the way or at the main event both years)? A team with arguably the best backline in the competition (and mostly under 25 so hardly a shadow)?



Having belief in your team is great, and Warrington are as good as anyone in the league, but so are Leeds, and they've proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that they can beat anyone and everyone.