Welcome to the "Scapegoat Club" Geno, where you will join such luminaries as Chris Riley, Kevin Penny, Ritchie Mathers, Richie Myler, Gareth O'Brien, Jon Clarke and Mike Wainwright.

Funnily enough I saw Wedge with his kids yesterday in the East Stand. I should have punched him there and then for the Widnes & Wakefield performances. Even in retirement he's making us lose matches.

I wish mike wainwright was playing in this era under TS.

Looking on the charitable side, as I said before I think the coach sees this season as one to rebuild and blood home grown talent.

To this end I think he wanted to give Ormsby an extended run in the first team and the only way to do this was to loan out Riley.

However I think it is unfortunate that Riley always appears to be the scapegoat and it must be unsettling for him.

The Wakefield coach has apparently said that he would like Riley on a permanent basis but, on the evidence I have seen, I think I would keep Riley and let them have Ormsby.

If we got Riley back I can guarantee that we would have a thread in no time calling for him to be dropped and calls for Ormsby to be brought back!!

There were some folks stood near me who were cheering loudly for chris when he came out to warm up, then when he scored his first try. When the second and third went over they were less polite, infact i'd say they were as abusive to him as they were when he was wearing a Wire shirt.



Hypocritical s.



my own view, I've never been bowled over with Gene, he's not exceptionally fast, or exceptionally powerful, a friend who watches the academy says he's never really stood out as being one to watch, hard worker, but not someone that catches the eye. As many people have said, he does appear to be someone being given a chance, personally i think he's been given a chance over riley purely on a physical basis.



Tony's not tinkered with the side hugely however I think Riles' stature has been against him and the poor form(from the team) at the start of the year was a perfect excuse to drop him and get Ormsby in who's a fair bit bigger in appearance, and subsequently with Evans.



Myself, i'll admit i'm a Riley fan, however I like what he used to bring to the team, he was a good finisher, when Atkins was actually passing the ball to him, pretty good kick returner and he was very very good at mopping up the many loose balls/bad passes that happened as we were sweeping from left to right. I'd say we'd have had many more turnovers if he wasn't in position or have the anticipation to stop a pass going behind atkins and into touch.

I don't think we will see Riley in a Wire shirt again. As for Ormsby, I thought he started well and was initially showing improvement, but after 18 or so games he doesn't really seemed to have kicked on. For me, his edge over Riley is the fact that he is still very young and raw and should be capable of upping his game. But at the moment that doesn't seem to be happening.

I think his height also plays a part in his selection. TS seems to love tall wide players who can jump and contest the high kicks in the corners.

Ormsby or Riley is moot. Just keeping a spot until Jack Johnson is ready.



Let us not get too carried away regarding Riley. Up until yesterday, his try return was two from seventeen games.

To be honest, there isn't much to choose between Riley & Ormsby. They both have weaknesses and strengths but when you look at the quality of some of our peers, neither have the wow factor.



Ormsby has youth on his side, but if he isn't fast enough now he won't be in two years and we'll have another winger whose is lethal from two yards and whose main threat is from contesting the high kick to the corner. Effective? Yes. Entertaining? Hardly.



Evans is our most exciting back by a mile, and he certainly has plenty of improvement still in him, but as a centre; what I'd give for a blur of a winger outside him, and to hell with his defence.

It's not about being a scapegoat, as these players are under performing or have weaknesses that are letting the side down. I was critical of Riley but I also spoke on here about Ormesby being a weak link in our side, that was a month ago when the going was good and nobody seemed bothered then.

I seem to remember in the dark early days of this season ,before our miraculous winning run, the left side defence was being panned for its sieve like qualities when in reality the right was just as bad. I think a major problem overall is that we are putting too much ball to ground & providing opportunities for opponents to score on the counter attack..... tighten the handling skills up & much of that problem will disappear.