I will have a pint of what your on, do not think even Alex Ferguson could of sorted him out.

COULD there be hope at Widnes?

Where Hock apparently enjoyed and behaved himself, plus Widnes wanted to keep him.

Well id take a punt on him on a e contract. If there's any coach in England who could potentially sort him out it's Tony Smith.

A well behaved Hock would be great, i am now of the opinion he is beyond help.



TS got rid of Gleeson, i doubt he'd think twice about leaving this alone.

Hock hasn't been "well-behaved" for any decent period of time since he came kicking and screaming into the world and probably chinned the midwife for looking at him funny.



He has some serious mental issues, and should be under the care of a qualified therapist not a rugby league coach and I say that with genuine concern for his future well being. His playing career is over, and I dread to think how he's going to cope with his obvious anger issues when he can't vent them on a playing field.

Wigan won the Challenge Cup in 2011 and the LLS and Hock came back from his ban. You would think the bloke would be on his best behaviour and then just because we were losing a game at your place he decided to grab a handful of Ben Harrison's eyeballs!



That was a 'winning' side in general.

How true. If Hock could not behave himself in those circumstances how much worse would he be with the shreds of his playing career around him? Wigan gave him every chance and he still ratted them out. Good riddance.

Get your cheque book out Mr Moran.



Wire need more mongrel.

We are too disciplined and too soft in my opinion.



Or maybe the game as a whole has become too soft.



As a speccie I like it rough and tough, non of this pat s cake pat a cake rubbish.

so lets get this straight, you want us to sign gareth hock, and tony puletua? who did diddly squat between them for Salford last year and this?

That's last year's Wire you are talking about. Much more aggressive this year - Sims, Westwood, Laithwaite, Harrison all been tearing in this year.

No teams are allowed to be overly aggressive anymore. The banning of the shoulder charge and tough penalties for fighting have put paid to that.



The general moaning that goes on nowadays about aggressive play from commentators, fans and clubs is born out of those rule changes.



The game could never be described as having gone 'soft' but it's been watered down massively.

Good comment. I think this sums him up. Another thing to bear in mind is that he may yet get another ban for his Twitter comment. It could easily be July before he plays again.