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| If you don't make it, I don't think the concept will last much longer. There is unlikely to be a Championship team as capable as yours again, but there is unlikely to be a bottom four as capable again, with Leeds, Huddersfield and a Salford who have won more games than their points tally. From 5th to 8th in the Super League, it will soon become a waste of time. They might as well blood kids, because none of them can make it to fourth in reality.
Every minute matters? Up until late June. After that, not really.
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| Quote Slugger McBatt="Slugger McBatt"If you don't make it, I don't think the concept will last much longer. There is unlikely to be a Championship team as capable as yours again, but there is unlikely to be a bottom four as capable again, with Leeds, Huddersfield and a Salford who have won more games than their points tally.=#FF0000 From 5th to 8th in the Super League, it will soon become a waste of time. They might as well blood kids, because none of them can make it to fourth in reality.
Every minute matters? Up until late June. After that, not really.'"
I understand your point but, if we revert to the previous set up, 5th - =#FF000012th in Sooper Dooper league won't matter, and neither will 1st - 12th in the Championship. That will surely give even more meaningless games?
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| Quote Slugger McBatt="Slugger McBatt"If you don't make it, I don't think the concept will last much longer. There is unlikely to be a Championship team as capable as yours again, but there is unlikely to be a bottom four as capable again, with Leeds, Huddersfield and a Salford who have won more games than their points tally. From 5th to 8th in the Super League, it will soon become a waste of time. They might as well blood kids, because none of them can make it to fourth in reality.
Every minute matters? Up until late June. After that, not really.'"
None of them can make it to fourth in reality soley because of poor perfomances in the regular season.Or should we revert back to a sixth place team winning the GF.
The system is perfomance based,you have to perform.The same last season 5th to 8th all breathing a sigh of relief as they're not in the middle 8's,then complaining becuase they have dead rubber games.What do points make?
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| How can people say the system is useless. The league doesn'the finish like this every year. This year it has but look back through the league tables over the years.
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| I liked the old top six set-up and one-up, one-down relegation. Made it twitchy at the bottom. The play-offs rewarded in some way a high finish, and provided a Championship climax with a grand final. Going down is tolerable if there is a fair punt at coming back up again at some point.
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| 12 months on ?Never , more like a year. 
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| Quote Slugger McBatt="Slugger McBatt"I liked the old top six set-up and one-up, one-down relegation. Made it twitchy at the bottom. The play-offs rewarded in some way a high finish, and provided a Championship climax with a grand final. Going down is tolerable if there is a fair punt at coming back up again at some point.'"
I would go further than that Slugger & say that only the top 4 play off, 2 semis & a final, the top 8 makes a mockery of finishing top *regular rounds* & makes League Leaders a poor relation to being the best team throughout the season.
Going even further Top of Championship gains straight promotion, bottom SL team relegated with a play off between 11th SL & 2nd Championship for P&R.
This way the number of games played in SL season can be reduced & maybe an extra International fixture or two played.
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| Quote Slugger McBatt="Slugger McBatt"If you don't make it, I don't think the concept will last much longer. There is unlikely to be a Championship team as capable as yours again, but there is unlikely to be a bottom four as capable again, with Leeds, Huddersfield and a Salford who have won more games than their points tally. From 5th to 8th in the Super League, it will soon become a waste of time. They might as well blood kids, because none of them can make it to fourth in reality.
Every minute matters? Up until late June. After that, not really.'"
Don't know who you support Slugger ......
But [ihow dare you[/i come onto this forum [imaking some sense[/i.

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| The players have the taent an the experience. The issue is "how much do they want it?"
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| I cant see any of the Champ top 4 getting near the bottom 4 SL teams so it basically will come down to how Leigh go on against London. Win that game and its a one off and anything can happen. Despite Leigh spending more money this season the bottom 4 of SL looks better than last season but for me the gap appears to have grown bigger. You never know though all it takes is one slip up and the chance might open up for one of the championship teams. Its still tough for a champ team to finish 3rd or above.
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| Mindset GFB.One on one,on paper,forget it.One on one with different mindsets,anything can happen.
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| I don't think any of the championship teams have a prayer against the SL teams. Unless we significantly improve, it's embarrassment time again.
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