So some on here respond with, other clubs do it so we will to, that makes it OK then does it? Whenever has two wrongs made something OK and acceptable.



People have also posed the question what can Derek do about it, well he could appeal to the songbirds to tame it down somewhat, then if they have any respect for him for what he has done for the club they might just take heed, then again.............

They will say it costs money to open East Stand, but I have been on opposition websites and quite a lot of opposition fans are not happy with being stuck behind the posts. I think the extra cost of opening East would be offset by extra away fans attending. I also would think some Leigh fans might fancy a change of scenery as well.

Don't think its just a case of lets open the East.There will be stadia regulations in place as in the East can only be applied for if either North or South are full/reaching max capacity.

Yea what has happened to the Icelantic Chant, done right its very intimidating and I think we got it just about right against Hudds in the middle 8's last year.

Being a Westander, I can honestly say it doesn't bother me,I never swear in life so wouldn't do it at Sports games,but we are not talking about a few fans here, we have around 500- 1000 in the North Stand singing the Flute Song,or the Savile song so they are popular,now I acknowledge Derek has done some great things at the LSV since taking over,but he can't feed the North Stand with 5 loaves and 2 small fish, neither can he stop the North Stand singing these songs, we have tannoy announcements every game letting us know that foul and abusive language will not be tolerated,but what is the answer?Eject all the guilty fans

it would look empty after, it simply can't be done,swearing isn't nice for kids to hear,as for Women they sometimes swear worse than men,there is NO solution,let's concentrate on watching good Rugby, and stop expecting even Derek to perform miracles.

The OP clearly has a point - I personally find it embarrassing at times, however, as has been said, it's the nature of sport and you hear similar at plenty of grounds.



With regards to children, I take my 11 year old grandson and we sit pretty near to the north stand so he takes it all in, and he never says a word about it - in this day and age sadly they hear similar in day to day life

Anyone travelling by public transport knows that no word is any longer taboo to the younger generations, barring possibly the N word. Bongser wonders if this is because the use of the latter carries the threat of prosecution. Bongser was caned when at school for accidentally using the word "dick" within a teacher's hearing. The European Convention on Human Rights put a stop to that sort of deterrent and thus ensured that it is every human's right to impinge on everyone else's should they so choose. Brexit won't change that, the damage is done. But if you're looking for somewhere to lay the blame...

From personal experience, I know that the club is very sensitive to any damage to its image - especially with the RFL. I honestly believe that the song in question does damage said image. How you prevent it, I've no idea!

The Watcher has also been attending Leigh games for over 50 years and he loves the industrial language used in the songs of the North Stand. When The Watcher was taken by his father to the rugby, it was part of the thrill of the occasion to hear loud booming voices scolding the opposition or referee using swear words. However The young Watcher knew only to well that if he ever repeated any of the very fruity words he had heard on the terraces he would have got a belt. Language is ever developing, don't be upset by swear words, grow a pair of balls & enjoy it, rugby is a tough sport played by tough hard men & watched in general by working class folk looking to release a bit of energy after a week at work. For The Watcher carry on swearing.

I've been to football games and heard worse , and thought it was funny , until watching MOTD with my parents and hearing it clearly on the TV



I prefer RL now for several reasons , one of those was the difference in support , ie being able to mix with opposition fans before and after



Yes there has always been individual swearing , and while I try to not do it myself , it happens within the emotion of the game



But within the ' songs/chants ' sung that include swear words there isn't a single one that is actually supportive/positive to the club or the team , every single one is abusive/aggressive aimed at the supporters of the team we are playing or Wigan



Anybody singing or supporting the singing of those songs/chants is an idiot , it isn't big and it isn't funny

well said Charlie, whilst most people agree with some of the sentiments posted, I fail to see What Derek can do about it. He may be our leader but after all he isn't God. People will do exactly what they want disregarding the opinion of others, maybe one day they will grow a brain cell and say 'you know what I am getting a bit tired of all the stupid chants, lets do something different and be a bit more respectful'.

Its about the 'woke up this morning' taking over as the song of choice, it was much louder on Thursday and as it takes off will replace one of the less savoury ones imo, especially if it becomes part of the players ritual. Used to love the Leigh Wino's one.