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| Quote Leyther_Matt="Leyther_Matt"If that was going to be the original premise then fair enough, but wasn't it always supposed to be about helping the community and it's sports clubs?
[url=http://www.thefootballnetwork.net/main/s195/st154247.htm2-0 win over Clitheroe today[/url'"
Well done Genesis on the win. 
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| Here, here. Well done Genesis.
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| Quote leythdave="leythdave"Again, the LSV are being blamed.
The Facility has to make Money to stay open, how do you suggest they do that, when Genesis put nowt in, and the Centurions have pitiful crowds?'"
Do the Genesis pay the same to rent the ground as the Centurions ? If they do it doesn't matter if there is 10 or 10,000 in the ground.
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| Quote leythdave="leythdave"Again, the LSV are being blamed.
The Facility has to make Money to stay open, how do you suggest they do that, when Genesis put nowt in, and the Centurions have pitiful crowds?'"
I'd hardly say our crowds are pitiful given the league we're in and the way we've performed the last 12 months or so. We get better crowds than almost everyone else in our league so it's difficult to criticise especially when the club aren't in a position to offer any discounts due to the LSV.
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| Even if they could go back to HP it would cost thousands to put the ground anywhere near usable again. Making the pitch playable, building of a stand, terraces, floodlights, changing rooms etc.
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| Quote The Kevster!="The Kevster!"I'd hardly say our crowds are pitiful given the league we're in and the way we've performed the last 12 months or so. We get better crowds than almost everyone else in our league so it's difficult to criticise especially when the club aren't in a position to offer any discounts due to the LSV.'"
The crowds are way below the pound signs that the LSV are looking for, though. Lower than Hilton Park, in fact.
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| Quote leythdave="leythdave"Again, the LSV are being blamed.
The Facility has to make Money to stay open, how do you suggest they do that, when Genesis put nowt in, and the Centurions have pitiful crowds?'"
It is a council owned 'community facility' (or that is what it was marketed as originally!!) no different from swimming baths or libraries......and both of those are 'free' to use!!
I don't deny that the council should be trying to recoup their financial outlay on the building costs, and that the facilities need maintaining - but this should be a long term goal. It should be about 'realistic' running costs, and all the community sharing the financial burden for the benefit of all......not 'profit at all cost'!!!
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| Quote Walt Mooney Fan Club="Walt Mooney Fan Club"It is a council owned 'community facility' (or that is what it was marketed as originally!!) no different from swimming baths or libraries......and both of those are 'free' to use!!
I don't deny that the council should be trying to recoup their financial outlay on the building costs, and that the facilities need maintaining - but this should be a long term goal. It should be about 'realistic' running costs, and all the community sharing the financial burden for the benefit of all......not 'profit at all cost'!!!'"
Unlike the `community facilities` mentioned, the Leigh Sports Village is i believe managed by a private company (LSV co) with a board of directors. from the CEO downwards their wage bill alone will be in the region of approx 300k per annum. Assuming they charge centurions 10% of ticket sales on a 2k crowd x 13 = 31k.. a mere drop in the ocean towards the Village upkeep and more than likely doesn`t even cover the cost of fuel for the grounds maintenance vehicles.
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| "Community Facility" has been used a lot on this forum. But is it ? Or was it offered to the town in such a way? Sure the college and sports centre would be, and is a benefit to all - but unless you enjoy watching football or rugby (Leigh based teams - lots of folk support other clubs) then the stadium was never a "community facility". The stadium needs to pay for itself - simple as because the council tax payers shouldn't really be subsidising it.
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| As it is currently when Genesis play a match there.
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| But in that case, why should a "private company" get any sort of council tax income? The cloth should be cut accordingly if they are going to be viable, but personally I don't see much sign of that.
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| Quote Leyther_Matt="Leyther_Matt"But in that case, why should a "private company" get any sort of council tax income? The cloth should be cut accordingly if they are going to be viable, but personally I don't see much sign of that.'"
Not sure how the private company works, as the council themselves are a big partner aren't they. Also public transport companies are privately owned but get money from tax.
Agree about cutting cloth accordingly. I was really making point about the stadium isn't a community facility as such.
I went to some under 21 games at HP, and remember not many staff (if any) was on with a crowd comparable to the Genesis game against Chorley. Why do we need so much staff for a game with 187 people in attendance? 
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