Lawrences defence is absolutly outstanding and for me he is a second row and we should not even consider moving him into the backs.

I also did not think his attack was that bad, but a lot on here are saying he lacks go forward. So i have just done a quick compare of the average metres per carry stats for the top seond rowers in super league this season.



Jones Buchannon 7.34

Westwood 7.07

Chan 6.9

Soliola 6.85

Manu 6.84

Delaney 6.79

Hock 6.76

Lawrence 6.72

Waterhouse 6.42

Hanson 6.32

Tickle 5.74



Not too bad sat between Hock and Waterhouse in a position he only just started playing.

impressive from chan too..



i agree really, hes cemented his place in the 2nd row... him,o'donnell and chan the first choice picks then? no ferres?

Ferres looks ok to me and with a full pre season under his belt i would expect to improve. But i would play Chan Lawrence and O Donnell as first choice back row with possibly Ferres on the bench.

Players like Bruno never get the accolades- they are workhorse players who run blood to water but because they aren't "flashy" aren't noticed by many.

Dave Atkins was a similar player- would regularly get close to 50 tackles a game but wasn't rated by some fans (who clearly were clueless) as it was whinged he didn't do anything going forward!





Bruno has decent go forward stats- only 0.6 metres per carry less than eorl! Couple that to his defence and he's an asset we need on the pitch.

If everyone in the team was doing their job as effectivly as Michael Lawrence we would be up near the top of the table.



The props (other than Eorl) and the Halves (other than Brough) are the reason we are not performing as there is no go forward and no creativity. As a result the backs get no space to play in and the back row spend most of their time defending as we cannot keep hold of the ball.

add that we dont keep hold of the ball and you have hit the nail on the head

id go with that but you do realise ferres in andersons bessie mate so prob keep giving him a starting spot

It's also worth saying that defensively Bruno is better than all those listed above.

I would find a spot for bruno anywhere in a starting 13, his workrate and attitude is second to none and he is consistent, never plays out of his skin but never has a bad game, top class performer,would be one of the first names down for me.

Reminds me of Roy Powell, never the flashiest player but always on the team sheet

Reason is I want the Giants to move to the next level and Bruno defends very well Granted, however the better teams have players like Westwood and Hock in their 2nd row, guys who defend well with aggression (nasty players) who also offer tons going forward.



Feel that top teams don't carry anyone regardless of defensive stats, this is just my opinion by the way.



Alot more would har him 1st on team sheet so I am in the minority.

It's almost like they have more energy than other players, are maybe super human. And they both have massively disfigured features. I wonder why??