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| I was going to say that the rebranding will make zero percent difference, but I'll go with 0.02%.
I cannot understand why it makes a difference - Purdo not playing is more meaningful to me.
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| Utterly deluded - wins=bums on seats=better atmosphere - simples!
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| Quote Lobbygobbler1="Lobbygobbler1"<snip> but the time is right for London RLFC to move on. <snip>'"
Really? On what do you base this statement?
Quote Lobbygobbler1="tricky_dicky" - did we really lose that many fans when we becasme Quins RL though?'"
No...and once the final home game is played I will post some stats on here to prove that we have done no better or worse than when we were the Broncos.
It makes no difference what we are called..........how we announce what we are called and how many times we invite people to come and watch us is what will make the difference.
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| Quote Paddock Punter="Paddock Punter"Utterly deluded - wins=bums on seats=better atmosphere - simples!'"
Not so. Plenty of clubs in plenty of sports can win as many games as they please but they won't find my bum on any of their seats unless I identify with them.
Other than RU supporters, few people will identify with "Harlequins". And not a lot of people identified with "London Broncos" even when they enjoyed some on-field success.
I don't know the solution and I don't believe it's simples.
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| I know there's no way of knowing for sure but perhaps we did lose some fans by becoming Quins but also gained some new ones. Now if the disullisioned fans return due to the new brand etc and the new fans from the Quins era remain (and I don't see why any wouldn't) then we could be in line for a boost in attendances could we not?
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| Quote gutterfax="gutterfax"Really? On what do you base this statement?
No...and once the final home game is played I will post some stats on here to prove that we have done no better or worse than when we were the Broncos.
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You might want to try a regression analysis of average attendance versus win % over the SL era. I think that will tell you everything you need to know.
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| Quote jbuzza="jbuzza"You might want to try a regression analysis of average attendance versus win % over the SL era. I think that will tell you everything you need to know.'"
we were more successfull in the 6 seasons before 2006 with 2 trips to the play-offs and we averaged 3,546 per game.
Since the start of the 2006 season we averaged 3,596 and have never finished higher than 7th.
Crowds at the Stoop, whilst disapointing, are not down to the name of the club and to a certain extent, not badly influenced by the performance of the team either.
Yes, some die hard anti-unionites will have stopped coming since 2006, but the fact remains, we have been better supported since 2006 than we were before it.
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| GF-Since it appears success and names dont make much difference could you give us the av crowds at each stadium-ie what were we getting at the Stoop previously
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| Quote gutterfax="gutterfax"we were more successfull in the 6 seasons before 2006 with 2 trips to the play-offs and we averaged 3,546 per game.
Since the start of the 2006 season we averaged 3,596 and have never finished higher than 7th.
Crowds at the Stoop, whilst disapointing, are not down to the name of the club and to a certain extent, not badly influenced by the performance of the team either.
Yes, some die hard anti-unionites will have stopped coming since 2006, but the fact remains, we have been better supported since 2006 than we were before it.'"
The differences you are talking about there could be down to random variation. Statistically, there does not appear to be any effect of time on our crowds.
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| Quote Lobbygobbler1="Lobbygobbler1"Since being Quins RL nobodies, the standing of RL in London in the media has nosedived (nothing to do with results either)'"
This statement renders your whole argument completely laughable IMO. How can a club's results have absolutely no bearing on its popular and media profile? Explain. Do the British newspapers focus on Manchester United and Liverpool because the public like teams who play in red?
If people couldn't bring themselves to cheer on a team called Harlequins RL that's down to two things - a substandard marketing effort by the club and IMO downright fickleness (is that a word?) on the part of some supporters. I started supporting the club as Broncos and overcame my initial scepticism about the Quins idea to become a season ticket holder. If some fans can't see the bigger picture, then IMO that's their problem, not the club's.
So now we have another name change, and the horrible (and discredited) idea of 'on the road' fixtures. Congratulations, you've dragged us back 6 years. Thanks.
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| The Penguin and a few others will never change their opinions whatever case and however strong it is that is a fact of life.
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| Pengy have you considered that the "on the road" games maybe testing the water given the club has mentioned a potential move away from the Stoop.
A day out in Brighton isnt that bad is it- Hearts in Scotland was a problem!
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