I’m not switching arguments. I’m saying that a lot of our lads can match it with theirs even if they wouldn’t get in their 17


Look at Queensland and NSW this series. The vast majority of the Aussie team will come from the NSW side yet they were beaten in the series. 

Personally I think the door is borderline off its hinges on Marshall and his chances. Not many Wigan players can be happy with the quality and consistency of their performances this season but I think he's one. Wane usually picks three wingers in his squad and he wants lads who can get your set rolling, with tough carries from your end and Marshall has just got better and better at that as the years have gone by, to the point where now he's just about the best in the league (certainly statistically he's making the most metres, is right up there on an average gain per carry basis). 

People worry about his lack of height and the potential worry of him facing Lomax or Coates but that would be there with any of our options against those two, even the taller ones.  Joe Burgess gets mentioned but he's poor under a high ball and his work rate is nowhere near as high and his average gain is well down on Marshall, Johnstone and Ashton (before his injury). 

On Lewis being 'a 6 all day long': I watched the game against Cats, and Lewis seemed to most of the organising, play-making, and kicking. Plus a couple of tries from good support play. And May seemed to do... not much, really! But he does that thing where he gets the ball standing still, and does a bit of a dance around on the spot, before passing to someone a metre away from him! 

I’m stunned he got in the squad or anywhere near. 

Pre injury he was showing signs he could be quality  but ever since the Catalans Grand final in 2024 he’s been, and I hate to say this, poor.


His body language just looks off and I’m not sure if his issue is physical or mental but something isn’t right. 


Nsemba, on this years form shouldn’t be there either.  He’s either fatigued from playing too much or believing the hype but so far in 2025 he’s going backwards. I can though see him getting his act together and forcing the case. 


Bateman will be in the 17, Wane loves him, and to be fair he’s playing well at the moment. We have KPP and Nicholson too so Nsemba needs to find his form quickly. 


Wardle is way off his best but I think he’s safe due to lack of competition.


Smith is the natural 7, the only real natural 7 apart from Sneyd. I rate Sneyd but his defence isn’t anywhere near good enough.


Lewis and Williams are 7/6 highbrids. They can play both roles but when Smith is firing he’s comfortably the best 7. Smith isn’t firing and if the team is picked tomorrow the halves are Lewis and Williams. Smith though again has credit in the bank and a couple of months to regain his form.


Marshall I love, but he’s not an international player. He’s consistently the best winger in SL or up there but the challenges at the top level are very different. Even if Ashton and Johnstone are out I’d go with Ash Handley and I think Burgess could maybe still force his way ahead of Marshy. 


Luckily for some of our lads the team isn’t picked tomorrow and I’m sure they will peak in September & October and play themselves into the team. 


I actually think given the expected players defecting to Samoa in Haas, Tino and Hammer the Australian team are significantly weakened, they will still clearly be favourites and rightly so, but I don’t think the gap is as wide as some think IF, we can get out best 17 on the pitch and on form.  

They are good in super league , but they would need a long period to adjust to the pace and skill of NRL. I think we are further behind at the minute than we have been since the 80s.Williams was decent over there , but if he was a local he wouldnt be anywhere near an origin shirt 
Knowles we dont really know yet , but if Tom Amone couldnt get a game and we have other NQC props coming over and causing SL teams problems , he might be miles of the pace. 
Welsby not going to have the pace , but one of the better SL players , Lewis ( would probably make it after a hard season or two ) and Nsemba , hard to tell if hes a flat track bully who would get smashed in NRL , but also could be the real deal .


in the 90s/2000s , we had a lot of best in the positions when we played 
like Offiah/Robinson 
Schoffield 
Hanley 
KFC miles ahead  
Farrell , Sculthorpe , Newlove , Senior , Conolly all should be there or there about in there match ups , but even then it never really materialised  . 


Now I look at the squad as a Leigh fan , Trout has been terrific , but I struggle to see him having anywhere near that impact in  test series .


If Wardle and Marshall are playing week in week out it has to be those two , Burgess would have the edge as an individual
 , but two plying together week in week out should count for a lot.


I think this team whatever they pick would be beaten convincingly by the 1993 Kangeroos.

I don't think the Kangaroos are weakened much by the loss of Tino, but otherwise,I couldn't agree more.