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He's asked Rads for some one on one coaching to help him cement the fullback position.
I think he's got a shot at making it his own long term tbh. He's got the basics like pace and a catching ability under the high and low ball and one of his best assests in the position is his bravery.
If Rads can just work on his positiong and timing when chiming into the attacking line i think he'll do very well long term.
I'd give him a new deal because if nothing else the lad looks like he actually gives a s*it which is more then can be said of some others.
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He's asked Rads for some one on one coaching to help him cement the fullback position.
I think he's got a shot at making it his own long term tbh. He's got the basics like pace and a catching ability under the high and low ball and one of his best assests in the position is his bravery.
If Rads can just work on his positiong and timing when chiming into the attacking line i think he'll do very well long term.
I'd give him a new deal because if nothing else the lad looks like he actually gives a s*it which is more then can be said of some others.
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| Surely you have a fullback in the academy with the potential to be much better than this guy?
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| Quote FearTheVee="FearTheVee"Surely you have a fullback in the academy with the potential to be much better than this guy?'"
We have Phil Vievers son Josh but i'm not sure how good he actually is.
I like Phelps and ever since he's moved to fullback he's done a very good job and looks to have finally found a position.
I think the good thing is he has alot of improvment in him as he comes to grips with the position.
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| To be honest I think Rads should take Ainscough to one side and help him with his catching, and this is not an attack on Ainscough, but if you have the expertise of someone like Kris you must use him
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| Good lad Phelpsy! Can you imagine how much support the fans would be giving him if he was from Norley Hall?
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| Quote Barnsleypie="Barnsleypie"To be honest I think Rads should take Ainscough to one side and help him with his catching, and this is not an attack on Ainscough, but if you have the expertise of someone like Kris you must use him'"
Hopefully we'll see the advantage of having somebody on the coaching staff the lads 'respect' in their preformences on the field and in the way they iron out their weaknesses.
You'd expect the head coach would help them out but he prefares to point out the weakness without actually doing much about it.
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| Quote NickyKiss="NickyKiss"
I'd give him a new deal because if nothing else the lad looks like he actually gives a s*it which is more then can be said of some others.'"
Hang on a minute. In the season ticket thread you said this in response to Jack Kerley:
Quote NickyKissQuote NickyKissJack Kerley wrote: And a lot less average Australians.'"
"Well Smith, Bailey and possibly Phelps will be leaving so thats 3 less(Smith shouldn't be classed as average but he has been for us).'"
So you were saying if we get rid of those three that's three less average Aussies, now you are on about giving one of those average Aussies a new deal!
You also went on to say next:
Quote NickyKiss"We've got the chance to cut alot of deadwood from our squad next year but if Lenagan keeps replacing them with cheap, average jo's like Roberts and Riddell we're going nowhere. "
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Well Phelps is also average so why give him a new deal? Because he tries hard and gives 100%? That alone is not enough.
Unfortunately we have Riddell and Roberts long term and if we keep Phelps as well that's just making the same mistake again and the end of Ainscough's career here IMO.
Given the contractual situation of the players, Phelps must leave and Roberts start to earn his money with a switch to full back. Ideally all three would leave but we are stuck with two of them so sticking with three is even worse IMO.
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| IMO Vievers has what it takes to become our future, regular fullback.
He's a great attacking player and is fearless when it comes to taking that high ball or putting his body on the line.
He's not quite ready yet, but he will be eventually.
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| Quote DaveO="DaveO"
So you were saying if we get rid of those three that's three less average Aussies, now you are on about giving one of those average Aussies a new deal!
Well Phelps is also average so why give him a new deal? Because he ties hard and gives 100%? That alone is not enough.
Unfortunately we have Riddell and Roberts long term and if we keep Phelps as well that's just making the same mistake again and the end of Ainscough's career here IMO.
Given the contractual situation of the players, Phelps must leave and Roberts start to earn his money with a switch to full back. Ideally all three would leave but we are stuck with two of them so sticking with three is even worse IMO.
Dave'"
To be fair to Phelps his name just popped into my head as an average Aussie which at the moment he probably is but like i say at least he seems to give a toss and can improve by playing in a settled position.
He's also pretty cheap which would be another reason to keep him on if theres nobody of a better quality available or if they want to spend the cap space on other positions(which i presume they do).
As for Ainscough the retention of Phelps wouldn't have to be the end of his first team chances if only we have a coach that picks on form!
Ainscough or Roberts on 2009 form? Ainscough by streets under a coach that picks on form but we don't have a guy that does that.
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| I'm unsure on this. I like Phelps - his workrate, his effort, he chimes into the line and has decent handling skills. With a bit more work on his defensive qualities - yes he could be a pretty good fullback.
However logic would dictate that we should release him, move Roberts to fullback and bring Ainscough in fulltime next year.
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| Quote ABP'="ABP'"IMO Vievers has what it takes to become our future, regular fullback.
He's a great attacking player and is fearless when it comes to taking that high ball or putting his body on the line.
He's not quite ready yet, but he will be.'"
Thats encouraging to hear.
Without knowing a great deal about it him it's hard to judge but at the moment i'd still fancy keeping Phelps on for another season.
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| Quote MadDogg="MadDogg"I'm unsure on this. I like Phelps - his workrate, his effort, he chimes into the line and has decent handling skills. With a bit more work on his defensive qualities - yes he could be a pretty good fullback.
However logic would dictate that we should release him, move Roberts to fullback and bring Ainscough in fulltime next year.'"
I want to see that Roberts actually has a passion to play the game before we move him to fullback.
He doesn't work hard enough even from the wing at the minute so i'm not sure i'd trust him to play fullback where he'd have to cover massive amounts of ground.
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